3 year research vs. 2 year pure coursework MS

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for a master's student in physics considering whether to pursue a research-focused master's degree requiring a thesis or a coursework-only master's degree. The implications of this choice on future job prospects and PhD applications in related fields are explored, including the impact of prior research experience.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the extended time needed to complete a thesis due to lacking a critical undergraduate course, suggesting a preference for a quicker coursework-only option.
  • Another participant argues that the type of master's degree may only significantly impact initial job applications, with a preference for research experience in technical positions.
  • There is a question raised about the potential impact of a coursework master's on PhD applications in non-physics departments, with concerns about being perceived as lacking research skills compared to candidates with research master's degrees.
  • Some participants suggest that the importance of research experience may vary depending on the specific admissions committee and that having a research project could strengthen an application.
  • One participant mentions the uncertainty of whether the additional year required for a research master's is justified by the potential benefits for PhD applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a coursework-only master's is advisable or how it will be perceived by future employers or admissions committees. Multiple competing views regarding the value of research experience and its impact on job prospects and further academic pursuits remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the significance of research experience may depend on specific job roles and the criteria of different academic departments, indicating a lack of clarity on how these factors will influence future opportunities.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering a master's degree in physics or related fields, particularly those weighing the benefits of research versus coursework in their academic and career planning.

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I'm currently doing a MS in physics. The way I'm progressing, it looks to me that I'd probably have to take 3 years to finish the thesis. This is because I'm having to take extra classes since I didn't have a critical 1 year class (E and M) during undergrad; I didn't major in physics. I'll be behind a year on a critical required class which is going to delay my research.

However, I want to get over with the masters as quickly as possible and have no plans to continue up to a PHD in physics. If I were to get a PHD, it'll be in physical chemistry or materials science.

So I'm thinking of just doing pure coursework, taking the comprehensive final and getting it over with in 2 years. I could also do research as an elective, but just not write a thesis, so there's no time pressure. This doesn't affect my funding which is through TA work. I did 1 year of undergrad research on polymers in chemical engineering.

Would doing a coursework/test only MS be worth it?
 
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I would say it only matters when you are applying for your first job. If it is technical they will prefer the research master's. Once you have a job no one is ever going to care. How much it matters for that first job depends on the job so it's hard to say.
 
carlgrace said:
I would say it only matters when you are applying for your first job. If it is technical they will prefer the research master's. Once you have a job no one is ever going to care. How much it matters for that first job depends on the job so it's hard to say.

Thank you for your help, I greatly appreciate it.

What about PHD applications for non-physics, but related, departments? I know it would have *some* impact, but how much? Would the ad-com for say the Materials Science and Engineering department, or the Chemistry department, believe that doing the coursework masters means that you're an unproven liability in terms of research skills, and would have significant motivation to pass you in favor of someone that did a research masters, in physics or any other related field? I know that undergrad research is not so meaningful once you have your masters, but how big of an issue is this?
 
chill_factor said:
Thank you for your help, I greatly appreciate it.

What about PHD applications for non-physics, but related, departments? I know it would have *some* impact, but how much? Would the ad-com for say the Materials Science and Engineering department, or the Chemistry department, believe that doing the coursework masters means that you're an unproven liability in terms of research skills, and would have significant motivation to pass you in favor of someone that did a research masters, in physics or any other related field? I know that undergrad research is not so meaningful once you have your masters, but how big of an issue is this?

That's really hard to say, but I guess it would depend on the specific admissions committee. Certainly a research project under your belt would strengthen your application (particularly if you can relate it to why you want to attend this particular department). Is that extra bump on your application worth another year of study? I'm not sure anyone can answer that. Perhaps you can try contacting a couple of the schools you're interested in for the Ph.D. and ask them?
 
carlgrace said:
That's really hard to say, but I guess it would depend on the specific admissions committee. Certainly a research project under your belt would strengthen your application (particularly if you can relate it to why you want to attend this particular department). Is that extra bump on your application worth another year of study? I'm not sure anyone can answer that. Perhaps you can try contacting a couple of the schools you're interested in for the Ph.D. and ask them?

I appreciate your feedback. I will write to the departments and make a decision by the deadline to choose thesis/coursework.
 

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