3D subsurface laser engraving for translucent minerals?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and techniques of 3D subsurface laser engraving in translucent minerals, comparing it to existing methods used for clear glasses. Participants explore the challenges of achieving precise focal points within these materials and seek insights on practical applications and existing research.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that 3D subsurface laser engraving is effective for clear glasses like Schott BK7 and B9 Borosilicate Glass but questions its application for translucent minerals.
  • Another participant inquires about the specific research papers the original poster has referenced, indicating a desire for deeper understanding of the laser's focal point precision.
  • Some participants suggest that lenses similar to those used in CD or DVD technology could be utilized to achieve the necessary precision in focusing the laser within translucent materials.
  • A participant recommends contacting laser manufacturers for potential solutions and provides links to companies that specialize in laser engraving machines.
  • There is a clarification that existing laser engraving machines are primarily designed for surface engraving, not internal engraving, which is the focus of the original inquiry.
  • Concerns are raised about the challenges posed by scattering in translucent materials, which may hinder the ability to achieve well-defined focal volumes.
  • One participant suggests sending samples to an engraving company to explore practical outcomes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of subsurface engraving in translucent materials, with some acknowledging the challenges while others propose potential solutions. No consensus is reached on the best approach or the effectiveness of current technologies.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the scattering of light in translucent materials and the need for precise focal adjustments, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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3D Subsurface Laser Engraving works for clear glasses like Schott BK7 and B9 Borosilicate Glass.

How does one do the same for relatively translucent minerals?

I have read research papers on using lasers for tattoo removal and cancer radiation therapy.
However, I want to know how the laser's focal point can be fixed with precision inside the translucent materials to properly engrave.
Thanks for your help in advance.
 
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you labelled you post with an "A" tag indicating post graduate level
so what papers have you been reading ?
Spin Operator said:
I want to know how the laser's focal point can be fixed with precision inside the translucent materials to properly engrave.
lenses on the laser source ... same as used for multi layer read and write on a CD or DVD disk
 
Tom.G said:
they are all for surface engraving ... The OP is talking about internal engraving where the surface is left untouched
hence why he is asking about focussing distances ( as they are continuously changing

eg

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the above 2 examples are etched within the blocks of glass/plastic ( not on the surface)

I bought one of dolphins ~ 2" sq and 3" high some years back for my wife ... looks really cool when lit from belowDave
 

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Spin Operator said:
3D Subsurface Laser Engraving works for clear glasses like Schott BK7 and B9 Borosilicate Glass.

How does one do the same for relatively translucent minerals?

I have read research papers on using lasers for tattoo removal and cancer radiation therapy.
However, I want to know how the laser's focal point can be fixed with precision inside the translucent materials to properly engrave.
Thanks for your help in advance.

Translucent materials may be tough to use due to scattering- you won't get nice well-defined focal volumes. Try sending a sample to an engraving company and see what they can do.
 

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