4 Element by 4 Element Multiplication Table ....

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The discussion revolves around creating a 4 element by 4 element multiplication table, particularly for finite fields. Participants explore various formatting options using LaTeX and TikZ to enhance readability and presentation of the table.

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Main Points Raised

  • Peter inquires about the easiest way to create a multiplication table for a field of 4 elements.
  • Some participants suggest using LaTeX tables, with one example provided that lacks distinguishing lines between elements and results.
  • Peter expresses a desire for a clearer distinction in the table, proposing darker lines or a different layout.
  • Another participant suggests simplifying the table by retaining only the necessary lines for clarity.
  • Several participants discuss the use of TikZ for creating the table, noting that while it allows for more customization, it requires more effort.
  • Peter encounters issues with displaying his TikZ table in a post, leading to discussions about proper syntax and delimiters for LaTeX and TikZ.
  • There are mentions of needing to wrap LaTeX in dollar-sign delimiters and confusion regarding unrecognized commands within TikZ.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for clearer formatting in the multiplication table, but there is no consensus on the best method to achieve this. Disagreements arise regarding the use of LaTeX versus TikZ and the specific syntax required for proper display.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unresolved issues with LaTeX syntax, particularly regarding the use of TikZ and the need for proper delimiters. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with LaTeX and TikZ among participants.

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What would be the easiest (but neat and readable) way of entering a 4 element by 4 element multiplication table ... ... for example the multiplication table for the field of 4 elements ... ...

Peter
 
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Do you mean something like this?

$$\begin{array}{|c|c|c|c|c|} \hline & 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 \\ \hline 1 & 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 \\ \hline 2 & 2 & 4 & 6 & 8 \\ \hline 3 & 3 & 6 & 9 & 12 \\ \hline 4 & 4 & 8 & 12 & 16 \\ \hline \end{array}$$
 
MarkFL said:
Do you mean something like this?

$$\begin{array}{|c|c|c|c|c|} \hline & 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 \\ \hline 1 & 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 \\ \hline 2 & 2 & 4 & 6 & 8 \\ \hline 3 & 3 & 6 & 9 & 12 \\ \hline 4 & 4 & 8 & 12 & 16 \\ \hline \end{array}$$
Yes ... thanks Mark ...

BUT ... would be so much better if there was a darker line (or some distinguishing line around first row and first colum to distinguish elements of the finite field from the results of multiplying them ...

Maybe I am being obsessively neat ... ...:)

Peter
 
Peter said:
Yes ... thanks Mark ...

BUT ... would be so much better if there was a darker line (or some distinguishing line around first row and first colum to distinguish elements of the finite field from the results of multiplying them ...

Maybe I am being obsessively neat ... ...:)

Peter

I do agree that would be better, but I honestly don't know how to get MathJax to do that. :D
 
Peter said:
BUT ... would be so much better if there was a darker line (or some distinguishing line around first row and first colum to distinguish elements of the finite field from the results of multiplying them ...
One way is to keep only those two lines and remove all the others: $$\begin{array}{c|cccc} + & a&b&c&d \\ \hline a&a&b&c&d\\ b&b&a&d&c \\ c&c&d&a&b \\ d&d&c&b&a \end{array}.$$
 
MarkFL said:
I do agree that would be better, but I honestly don't know how to get MathJax to do that. :D
Thanks anyway Mark ...

Not many occasions when that happens ... ☺️

Peter

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Opalg said:
One way is to keep only those two lines and remove all the others: $$\begin{array}{c|cccc} + & a&b&c&d \\ \hline a&a&b&c&d\\ b&b&a&d&c \\ c&c&d&a&b \\ d&d&c&b&a \end{array}.$$
Thanks Opalg ... yes, definitely one solution...

Peter
 
How about:
\begin{tikzpicture}
\usetikzlibrary{matrix}
\matrix (m) [nodes={minimum width=2em,minimum height=2ex},matrix of nodes]
{
+&0&1&2&3\\
0&0&1&2&3\\
1&1&2&3&10\\
2&2&3&10&11\\
3&3&10&11&12\\
};
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.north east) -- (m-5-1.south east);
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.south west) -- (m-1-5.south east);
\foreach \x in {2,...,5}{
\draw (m-1-\x.north east) -- (m-5-\x.south east);
\draw (m-\x-1.south west) -- (m-\x-5.south east);
}
\end{tikzpicture}
 
I like Serena said:
How about:
\begin{tikzpicture}
\usetikzlibrary{matrix}
\matrix (m) [nodes={minimum width=2em,minimum height=2ex},matrix of nodes]
{
+&0&1&2&3\\
0&0&1&2&3\\
1&1&2&3&10\\
2&2&3&10&11\\
3&3&10&11&12\\
};
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.north east) -- (m-5-1.south east);
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.south west) -- (m-1-5.south east);
\foreach \x in {2,...,5}{
\draw (m-1-\x.north east) -- (m-5-\x.south east);
\draw (m-\x-1.south west) -- (m-\x-5.south east);
}
\end{tikzpicture}
Thanks I like Serena ... excellent ...

... but ... takes a bit of effort ... :)

Peter
 
Peter said:
Thanks I like Serena ... excellent ...

... but ... takes a bit of effort ... :)

Peter

The matrix itself is exactly the same as it is in regular $\LaTeX$.
And we can embellish it using TikZ, which is really a bit of copy-and-paste.
If you're going to create more than one or two tables, we can probably come up with an easy way to do it for all of them.
 
  • #10
I like Serena said:
The matrix itself is exactly the same as it is in regular $\LaTeX$.
And we can embellish it using TikZ, which is really a bit of copy-and-paste.
If you're going to create more than one or two tables, we can probably come up with an easy way to do it for all of them.
OK

I tried this in my post but the multiplication table failed to display ... can anyone see my error$$\begin{tikzpicture}
\usetikzlibrary{matrix}
\matrix (m) [nodes={minimum width=2em,minimum height=2ex},matrix of nodes]
{
\times & 0 & 1 & \theta & \theta + 1 \\
0&0&0&0&0\\
1&0&1& \theta & \theta + 1 \\
\theta & 0 & \theta & \theta + 1 & 1 \\
\theta +1 & 0 & \theta + 1 & 1 & \theta \\
};
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.north east) -- (m-5-1.south east);
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.south west) -- (m-1-5.south east);
\foreach \x in {2,...,5}{
\draw (m-1-\x.north east) -- (m-5-\x.south east);
\draw (m-\x-1.south west) -- (m-\x-5.south east);
}
\end{tikzpicture}$$
 
  • #11
You need to wrap any $\LaTeX$ in dollar-sign delimiters, however then an error regarding the matrix m being unrecognized crops up, and I don't see why. :D
 
  • #12
MarkFL said:
You need to wrap any $\LaTeX$ in dollar-sign delimiters, however then an error regarding the matrix m being unrecognized crops up, and I don't see why. :D
Thanks Mark ...

It is a real puzzle ... I did put $$ delimiters around the whole of the Latex Text in my most recent post entitled[h=1] http://mathhelpboards.com/linear-abstract-algebra-14/field-extensions-finite-fields-dummit-foote-section-13-2-exercise-2-a-21441.html in the Linear and Abstract Algebra forum ... [/h]
Hope someone can figure out what is wrong ...

All I did was replace I like Serena's numbers with the values of the finite field multiplication table ...

Remains a mystery what went wrong ...

... BUT ... thanks again for your help ...

Peter
 
  • #13
Peter said:
OK

I tried this in my post but the multiplication table failed to display ... can anyone see my error$$\begin{tikzpicture}
\usetikzlibrary{matrix}
\matrix (m) [nodes={minimum width=2em,minimum height=2ex},matrix of nodes]
{
\times & 0 & 1 & \theta & \theta + 1 \\
0&0&0&0&0\\
1&0&1& \theta & \theta + 1 \\
\theta & 0 & \theta & \theta + 1 & 1 \\
\theta +1 & 0 & \theta + 1 & 1 & \theta \\
};
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.north east) -- (m-5-1.south east);
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.south west) -- (m-1-5.south east);
\foreach \x in {2,...,5}{
\draw (m-1-\x.north east) -- (m-5-\x.south east);
\draw (m-\x-1.south west) -- (m-\x-5.south east);
}
\end{tikzpicture}$$

When we put $$ tags or \$ symbols around $\LaTeX$, we put latex in so called math mode, so that it's easier to create mathematical formulas.

With [TIKZ] tags or \begin {tikzpicture} ... \end {tikzpicture} we put it in TikZ mode, so that it's easier to make pictures.
Unfortunately, that means it's not in math mode.
So it's complaining about the \times directive that it does not recognize, and more or less suggesting to use \$ symbols.
We should put \$ symbols around the symbols that should be rendered in math mode.

Code:
\begin{tikzpicture}
\usetikzlibrary{matrix}

\matrix (m) [nodes={minimum width=3em,minimum height=3ex},matrix of nodes]
{
$\times$ & 0 & 1 & $\theta$ & $\theta + 1$ \\
0&0&0&0&0\\
1&0&1& $\theta$ & $\theta + 1$ \\
$\theta$ & 0 & $\theta$ & $\theta + 1$ & 1 \\
$\theta + 1$  & 0 & $\theta + 1$ & 1 & $\theta$ \\
};

\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.north east) -- (m-5-1.south east);
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.south west) -- (m-1-5.south east);
\foreach \x in {2,...,5}{
  \draw (m-1-\x.north east) -- (m-5-\x.south east);
  \draw (m-\x-1.south west) -- (m-\x-5.south east);
}
\end{tikzpicture}

[TIKZ]
\usetikzlibrary{matrix}
\matrix (m) [nodes={minimum width=3em,minimum height=3ex},matrix of nodes]
{
$\times$ & 0 & 1 & $\theta$ & $\theta + 1$ \\
0&0&0&0&0\\
1&0&1& $\theta$ & $\theta + 1$ \\
$\theta$ & 0 & $\theta$ & $\theta + 1$ & 1 \\
$\theta + 1$ & 0 & $\theta + 1$ & 1 & $\theta$ \\
};
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.north east) -- (m-5-1.south east);
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.south west) -- (m-1-5.south east);
\foreach \x in {2,...,5}{
\draw (m-1-\x.north east) -- (m-5-\x.south east);
\draw (m-\x-1.south west) -- (m-\x-5.south east);
}
[/TIKZ]
 
  • #14
Peter said:
Thanks Mark ...

It is a real puzzle ... I did put $$ delimiters around the whole of the Latex Text in my most recent post entitled[h=1] http://mathhelpboards.com/linear-abstract-algebra-14/field-extensions-finite-fields-dummit-foote-section-13-2-exercise-2-a-21441.html in the Linear and Abstract Algebra forum ... [/h]
Hope someone can figure out what is wrong ...

All I did was replace I like Serena's numbers with the values of the finite field multiplication table ...

Remains a mystery what went wrong ...

... BUT ... thanks again for your help ...

Peter

I've edited your post to fix the table.
That is, I've removed the superfluous \$ around it.
Instead I've put \$ symbols around \times and \theta where they occur.
And I've increased the minimum width in the matrix to 3em, so that the columns align properly.
 
  • #15
I like Serena said:
I've edited your post to fix the table.
That is, I've removed the superfluous \$ around it.
Instead I've put \$ symbols around \times and \theta where they occur.
And I've increased the minimum width in the matrix to 3em, so that the columns align properly.
Thank you for all your help ...

Your posts have been exceedingly helpful!

Peter
 
  • #16
My previous TikZ suggestion had the 'problem' that math symbols had to have \$ symbols around them.
Turns out there is a better way by using a [M]matrix of math nodes[/M] instead of a [M]matrix of nodes[/M].
Then all nodes are already in math mode.
Other than that the solution is the same.
\begin{tikzpicture}
\usetikzlibrary{matrix}

\matrix (m) [nodes={minimum width=3em,minimum height=3ex},matrix of math nodes]
{
\times & 0 & 1 & \theta & \theta + 1 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
1 & 0 & 1 & \theta & \theta + 1\\
\theta & 0 & \theta & \theta + 1 & 1 \\
\theta + 1 & 0 & \theta + 1 & 1 & \theta \\
};

\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.north east) -- (m-5-1.south east);
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.south west) -- (m-1-5.south east);
\foreach \x in {2,...,5}{
\draw (m-1-\x.north east) -- (m-5-\x.south east);
\draw (m-\x-1.south west) -- (m-\x-5.south east);
}
\end{tikzpicture}
[latexs]\begin{tikzpicture}
\usetikzlibrary{matrix}

\matrix (m) [nodes={minimum width=3em,minimum height=3ex},matrix of math nodes]
{
\times & 0 & 1 & \theta & \theta + 1 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 0\\
1 & 0 & 1 & \theta & \theta + 1\\
\theta & 0 & \theta & \theta + 1 & 1 \\
\theta + 1 & 0 & \theta + 1 & 1 & \theta \\
};

\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.north east) -- (m-5-1.south east);
\draw[very thick] (m-1-1.south west) -- (m-1-5.south east);
\foreach \x in {2,...,5}{
\draw (m-1-\x.north east) -- (m-5-\x.south east);
\draw (m-\x-1.south west) -- (m-\x-5.south east);
}
\end{tikzpicture}[/latexs]
 

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