$50 dollars to spend on textbooks for Physics (soft covers are okay)

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for physics textbooks that can be purchased for $50 or less, focusing on both theoretical and practical aspects of physics. Participants share their current resources, preferences, and considerations for long-term utility in their studies.

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  • One participant lists several textbooks they are considering, including Griffith's Electrodynamics and Jackson's Electrodynamics, expressing a desire for long-term usefulness.
  • Another participant suggests alternatives for General Relativity (GR) texts, recommending Ohanian and Hartle as more accessible options compared to MTW.
  • There is mention of the availability of older editions of Goldstein and Jackson, with a caution about the print quality of some editions.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of self-studying MTW, with a preference for more approachable texts before tackling it.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether Griffith's text will adequately prepare them for an independent study in QFT.
  • There is a discussion about the reliability of international edition books from sites like Abebooks and Alibris, with mixed feelings about their quality.
  • Another participant highlights the clarity of Ryder's QFT book, while acknowledging that it may not be fully comprehensible to everyone.
  • Suggestions for other mechanics texts, such as Marion, are mentioned as potential options for undergraduate courses.

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Participants express a variety of opinions on the suitability of different textbooks, with no clear consensus on which books are the best choices. There are competing views on the practicality of certain texts for self-study and the quality of international editions.

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Participants discuss the limitations of certain texts for self-study and the varying quality of international editions, but do not resolve these concerns.

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So I have the following:
Halliday & Resnick
Griffith's Quantum Mechanics
Ryder's QFT (I have a reason for getting this over Schroeder or the Zee book)
Access to most of my friend's books (everything from Hewitt's Conceptual Physics to MTW's Gravitation) but I want my own copies for a number of reasons


Things I'm considering getting:
Griffith's Electrodynamics
Griffith's Particle book
Goldstein & Poole Classical Mechanics
Shankar's Quantum Mechanics
Jackson's Electrodynamics
Penrose Road to Reality*** not super serious but I've heard it's great.

Everything above I've read through the opening chapters of and fortunately none of them really scare me as much as I thought they would (well the Jackson book...) I would put books like Gravitation on the list but I cannot find it in paperback or used for less than $50 =|

I'm looking to get something that will be useful to me in the long term that I can get used or paperback/international for $50. I know that several of these books can be purchased for that much in those manners but I am unsure what I should get.

Any recommendations? The limit in spending is because it is coming as a gift.
Math texts would probably be good too
 
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There's still a lot to like about Ryder's QFT book.

MTW is somewhat impractical for self study, and there have been a zillion GR books written in the intervening 40 years. For a GR book, I see some used copies of Ohanian for $20 on Amazon. The emphasis is much more "physical" and much less geometrical. Or wait for a cheaper copy of Hartle, which I think is now the best introductory text. But Schutz is still good, and Ryder has weighed in with a text.

Don't forget the http://store.doverpublications.com/by-subject-science-and-mathematics-physics.html.

You could probably pick up cheaper older editions of Goldstein and Jackson. For mechanics, I like the conciseness of Landau & Lifschitz. But be careful, the Elsevier printings had a problem with unreadable fine print. BTW, I think Abebooks or Alibris are better than Amazon for getting exactly the the right edition and condition you want for used books.
 
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There's still a lot to like about Ryder's QFT book.

MTW is somewhat impractical for self study, and there have been a zillion GR books written in the intervening 40 years. For a GR book, I see some used copies of Ohanian for $20 on Amazon. The emphasis is much more "physical" and much less geometrical. Or wait for a cheaper copy of Hartle, which I think is now the best introductory text. But Schutz is still good, and Ryder has weighed in with a text.

Don't forget the http://store.doverpublications.com/by-subject-science-and-mathematics-physics.html.

You could probably pick up cheaper older editions of Goldstein and Jackson. For mechanics, I like the conciseness of Landau & Lifschitz. But be careful, the Elsevier printings had a problem with unreadable fine print. BTW, I think Abebooks or Alibris are better than Amazon for getting exactly the the right edition and condition you want for used books.

I have yet to begin my Ryder text but this fall I'll be taking an independent study from it ^^; Will Griffith's text be enough preparation? I feel like I'm going to die even though I've heard it's slightly gentler as a text. What do you like about it?

I don't plan on self studying MTW XDDD I'll wait until I'm through with the math required haha but I do plan on needing it is all.

I use Abebooks and Alirbis as often as I look for textbooks (which is oddly quite often lately) I agree that they are both good sites as well. Do you have any issues with their international edition books?

I think I may go with the Goldstein, I may also consider Marion...? I cannot remember but I believe it was another mechanics book that is used more frequently in undergraduate courses.

Thanks a lot for your links to other books, I'll be sure to look into them soon!
Elwin
 
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Elwin.Martin said:
I have yet to begin my Ryder text but this fall I'll be taking an independent study from it ^^; Will Griffith's text be enough preparation? I feel like I'm going to die even though I've heard it's slightly gentler as a text.

I don't know Griffith's text, but I assume that, being a particle physics book, it deals more with phenomenology. I would recommend https://www.amazon.com/dp/0750308648/?tag=pfamazon01-20 for a gentler introduction to QFT.

What do you like about it?

He writes very clearly. That doesn't mean you'll understand everything, though.

I don't plan on self studying MTW XDDD I'll wait until I'm through with the math required haha but I do plan on needing it is all.

I can understand why you feel you might want such a classic text, but it's not where I'd start with GR.

I use Abebooks and Alirbis as often as I look for textbooks (which is oddly quite often lately) I agree that they are both good sites as well. Do you have any issues with their international edition books?

I've been afraid to take a chance on them. Mainly I worry about the quality of the paper, printing, and binding. Maybe they're not so bad.
 
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