A ball is shot from the ground into the air

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The problem involves a ball shot from the ground into the air, with specific parameters given at a height of 8.8 m, including its velocity components. The objective is to determine the maximum height the ball will reach.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations, particularly questioning the necessity of time in solving for maximum height. There is a focus on the vertical velocity at maximum height and the correct application of known values.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using the kinematic equation without needing time, while others are exploring the implications of using different velocity values. There is recognition of potential confusion regarding initial conditions and the values provided in the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of time as a given variable and the need to clarify which velocities to use in calculations. There is also mention of the initial conditions being different for the vertical and horizontal components.

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Homework Statement


A ball is shot from the ground into the air. At a height of 8.8 m, the velocity is observed to be

v = (7.4)i + (5.7)j in meters per second (i horizontal, j upward). To what maximum height will the ball rise?

Homework Equations


V^2 = Vi^2 + 2a(Δy)

The Attempt at a Solution



I have listed my knowns for x and y
Y:
Yi = 0m
Y = 8.8 m
V = 5.7 m/s
Vi = 11.8 m/s ~solved from the equation

X:
V = 7.4 m/s
Xi = 0m

I am having a difficult time finding the max height because they do not give the time and I am not sure if I could solve for time with only the y components.

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You don't need the time.
You can use the same equation again.
What is the y velocity when max height is reached?
 
billy_joule said:
You don't need the time.
You can use the same equation again.
What is the y velocity when max height is reached?
The velocity would be zero but I used that number and I get 7.1 m for displacement and that's too low.
 
Kpgabriel said:
The velocity would be zero but I used that number and I get 7.1 m for displacement and that's too low.
I see what I was doing wrong. I was forgetting to put in the 8.8 m and the 5.7 velocity which they already gave to me. Instead, I was using the initial velocity that I found which was not necessary.
 
As long as you recognise the starting points are different you can use either velocity, the answer is the same.
 

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