A Bar Suspended by Two Vertical Strings

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The discussion focuses on calculating the tensions in two vertical strings supporting a rigid horizontal bar with a mass of 85.00 kg and length of 5.300 m, while also supporting an additional mass of 2000 kg. The tension in string A (T(A)) is calculated using the torque due to the weights of both the bar and the object, resulting in T(A) = 68111.63 N, which requires rounding to four significant figures. The tension in string B (T(B)) is derived from the torque equations, but the initial calculation of T(B) = 34056.45 N was incorrect, indicating a need for further clarification on the torque setup and unit consistency.

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Homework Statement


A rigid uniform horizontal bar of mass m1 = 85.00 kg and length L = 5.300 m is supported by two vertical massless strings. String A is attached at a distance d = 1.500 m from the left end of the bar and is connected to the top plate. String B is attached to the left end of the bar and is connected to the floor. An object of mass m2 = 2000 kg is supported by the crane at a distance x = 5.100 m from the left end of the bar.

Throughout this problem, positive torque is counterclockwise. Use 9.81 m/s^2 for the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity.

(1) Find T(A) the tension in string A.
(2) Find T(B) the magnitude of the tension in string B.

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Homework Equations



Ta = (Torque due to weight of bar + Torque due to weight of object) / (l/2)
Tb = Ta*d - m1g(L/2) - m2gx

The Attempt at a Solution



I got Ta = 68111.63, It says that I am close, rounding error, and it has to be in 4 sig figs.

I got Tb = 34056.45, and no dice with this one.
 
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laxmanic33 said:
Ta = (Torque due to weight of bar + Torque due to weight of object) / (l/2)
Tb = Ta*d - m1g(L/2) - m2gx
I don't understand how you arrived at these equations.

To find Ta, set up a torque equation about the point where string B connects to the bar; To find Tb, set up a torque equation about the point where string A connects to the bar.
 
Are you using T for both torque and tension? Some units would be a big help to you.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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