A Block Slides Down an Inclined Plane

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The problem involves a block sliding down an inclined plane with friction, moving at a constant speed. The forces acting on the block include its weight and contact forces from the incline, with the inclined plane being stationary. The inquiry focuses on the direction of the force exerted by the block on the inclined plane.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the directions of friction and normal forces acting on the block and question how these relate to the forces acting on the inclined plane. There is exploration of vector addition and the implications of constant velocity on net forces.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning definitions and directions of forces. Some have offered insights into the relationship between the forces on the block and the inclined plane, while others are clarifying their understanding of the setup and vector directions.

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There is some ambiguity regarding the definitions of directional terms (east, west, southeast, southwest) as they relate to the motion of the block and the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


A block slides down an inclined plane with friction. It is sliding at a constant speed. The only forces acting on the block are its weight and contact forces due to the incline. The inclined plane is stationary.

The inclined plane is a wedge that is highest on the left (eg. you would slide down towards the right). That is the way the block is sliding.

Which way does the force exerted by the block on the inclined plane point?


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Well, I think there's a friction force pointing along the inclined plane towards the upper left and a normal force 90 degrees to the inclined plane pointing down. Adding these gives one force, pointing towards the left (straight to the left).

But apparently the answer is straight down (like along the y axis). I don't understand why, can anyone help?
 
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jumbogala said:
Well, I think there's a friction force pointing along the inclined plane towards the upper left and a normal force 90 degrees to the inclined plane pointing down.
First consider forces acting on the block. Which way does friction and the normal force act on the block? What's the net force on the block?
 
The normal force acting on the block would be 90 degrees to the surface of the inclined plane, in a northwest direction.

The friction acting on the block would be opposite the block's motion, so it would be in a northeast direction parallel to the inclined plane.

Wouldn't the forces acting on the inclined plane, from the block, be the same as these but in the opposite direction?
 
jumbogala said:
The normal force acting on the block would be 90 degrees to the surface of the inclined plane, in a northwest direction.

The friction acting on the block would be opposite the block's motion, so it would be in a northeast direction parallel to the inclined plane.
I'm not sure how you are defining east and west, but OK. (Is the block sliding southeast or southwest?)

Wouldn't the forces acting on the inclined plane, from the block, be the same as these but in the opposite direction?
Absolutely.
 
I am defining east and west so that the block is sliding southeast.

Ok, so now if I add up two vectors, one in a southeast direction (but still 90 degrees to the surface of the inclined plane). And another in southwest direction (but still parallel to the inclined plane), the vector points straight down.

Which is the answer!

Thank you!
 
Excellent.

Another way to see it is this: We know that the net force on the block is zero, since it moves with constant velocity. The only forces on it are the force of the inclined plane and the force of gravity. Since gravity acts straight down, the inclined plane force must act straight up. Therefore, from Newton's 3rd law, the force of the block on the inclined plane must act straight down.
 

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