A contour integral frequenctly encountered

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The forum discussion centers on a contour integral frequently encountered in Green's function formalism, specifically involving the product of retarded and advanced Green's functions. The integral presented is \sum_{p^{\prime}}\frac{1}{p^{2}-{p^{\prime}}^{2}-i\epsilon}\frac{1}{p^{2}-{p^{\prime}}^{2}+i\epsilon}, leading to a divergence proportional to \frac{1}{\epsilon}. The user seeks clarification on the calculation process, particularly regarding the application of the residue theorem and the implications of pinch singularities in real-time many-body quantum field theory (QFT). The discussion highlights the importance of Schwinger-Keldysh contour techniques to avoid such divergences.

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Homework Statement



Need some help here on a frequently encountered integral in Green's function formalism.

Homework Equations



I have an integral/summation as a product of a retarded and advanced Green's functions, looks simply like
\sum_{p^{\prime}}\frac{1}{p^{2}-{p^{\prime}}^{2}-i\epsilon}\frac{1}{p^{2}-{p^{\prime}}^{2}+i\epsilon}
where I have omitted the mass m to make the notation simple. \epsilon is a positive infinitesimal.

The Attempt at a Solution


I can convert the summation to an integral over momentum p, this is standard. Then I follow the complex analysis and identify 4 poles and further apply the residue theorem, what I get is an expression proportional to \frac{1}{\epsilon}. This means it is divergent.

Can anyone point out to me what have I missed in this calculation? What mistakes did I make? Many many thanks
 
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hneder said:

Homework Statement



Need some help here on a frequently encountered integral in Green's function formalism.

Homework Equations



I have an integral/summation as a product of a retarded and advanced Green's functions, looks simply like
\sum_{p^{\prime}}\frac{1}{p^{2}-{p^{\prime}}^{2}-i\epsilon}\frac{1}{p^{2}-{p^{\prime}}^{2}+i\epsilon}
where I have omitted the mass m to make the notation simple. \epsilon is a positive infinitesimal.

The Attempt at a Solution


I can convert the summation to an integral over momentum p, this is standard. Then I follow the complex analysis and identify 4 poles and further apply the residue theorem, what I get is an expression proportional to \frac{1}{\epsilon}. This means it is divergent.

Can anyone point out to me what have I missed in this calculation? What mistakes did I make? Many many thanks

Hi.

Can you provide more details on your calculation? I am assuming you are doing the four-dimensional integral over d^4 p. Then did you do the p_0 integral using contour integration and got the 1/ \epsilon term before doing the remaining 3-dimensional integral?
 
Thanks for the reply. This is simply a product of two Green's functions, one retarded and one advanced. No, it is a regular 3D integral (summation) and momentum p and p^{\prime} here are both 3D vectors. Somehow I know there is a contour integral to be done. But it is not clear to me how should I do it.

What I did was the following. If I perform the p integration using residue theorem, as I mentioned in the post, I end up with four poles p\pm i\epsilon, -p\pm i\epsilon and the final result \sim \frac{1}{\epsilon}. The same result comes out if I convert the p integration into one with energy using E=p^{2}/{2m}.
 
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It doesn't make physical sense if the vectors p and p' are Euclidean.

Anyway, as a purely mathematical exercise, it's an interesting problem, because it demonstrates the problem of Pinch singularities that sometimes occur in real-time many-body QFT if one is not careful enough, because, as you seem to have realized, the expressions do not make sense in the weak limit \epsilon \rightarrow 0^+. Fortunately, one can prove rigorously that such pinch singularities are absent when the correct Schwinger-Keldysh Contour techniques are applied. The details are a bit tedious, and one has to use some care to correctly make sense of the distributions involved in the calculation. See my lecture notes on relativistic many-body theory:

http://fias.uni-frankfurt.de/~hees/publ/off-eq-qft.pdf

(the long Sect. 2.2).
 
Thanks, vanhees71, for your explanation. Your notes in the link are a bit too advanced for a junior student. Hopefully I will get there later. Is there any chance to explain in a simplified language? To be more specific, my problem arises from calculating, for example, the inner product of two scattered wave functions built up with Lippmann-Schwinger equation in momentum space (see, for example, in the Sakurai book), where you immediately encounter the product of two propagators described above.
 

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