A curiosity about the Riemann Zeta Function....

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The discussion revolves around the Riemann Zeta Function and its relationship with the Dirichlet eta function, particularly focusing on the evaluation of limits and series representations. Participants explore various mathematical approaches to demonstrate properties of these functions, including the limit of the eta function as \( s \) approaches zero and its connection to the zeta function.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants discuss the expression for the Riemann Zeta Function and its effective computation in the half-plane where \( \text{Re}(s) > 0 \).
  • One participant asserts that the limit \( \lim_{s \to 0^+} \eta(s) = \frac{1}{2} \) is independent of the value \( \zeta(0) = -\frac{1}{2} \), suggesting a proof using Grandi's series.
  • Another participant presents an integral representation of the eta function that is valid for all complex values of \( s \), arguing it provides a way to evaluate \( \eta(0) \) without prior knowledge of the zeta function.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity of the integral proposed for evaluating \( \eta(s) \) compared to other methods.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the relationship between summability theorems and the properties of the zeta and eta functions, particularly in the context of Grandi's series.
  • There are multiple references to the historical context of Grandi's series and its implications for convergence, with some participants sharing anecdotal information about Grandi himself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between the limits of the eta function and the zeta function. There are competing views on the validity of different mathematical approaches and the implications of Grandi's series, leading to an unresolved discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their approaches, including the dependence on specific definitions and the unresolved nature of certain mathematical steps related to convergence and summability.

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Recently some interesting material about the Riemann Zeta Function appeared on MHB and I also contributed in the post... http://mathhelpboards.com/challenge-questions-puzzles-28/simplifying-quotient-7235.html#post33008

... where has been obtained the expression...

$\displaystyle \zeta (s) = \frac{1}{1-2^{1 - s}}\ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^{n-1}}{n^{s}}\ (1)$

... that allows the effective computation of $\zeta(*)$ in the half plane where $\text{Re} (s) > 0$. It is well known that $\zeta (0) = - \frac{1}{2}$ so that is...

$\displaystyle \lim_{s \rightarrow 0 +} \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^{n-1}}{n^{s}} = \frac{1}{2}\ (2)$

What I'm interested about is how to demonstrate (2) independently from (1), i.e. whitout the preliminary knowledge that $\zeta (0) = - \frac{1}{2}$. I spent many hours in attempts but without success (Emo)... Kind regards $\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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Actually, the fact that $$\lim_{s \to 0^+} \eta(s)$$ is 1/2 has pretty much nothing to do with $$\zeta(0) = -1/2$$. The former can be proved by using the fact that Grandi's series (i.e., $$\eta(0)$$) is basically the power series expansion of $$\frac1{1+z}$$ at $$z = 1$$.
 
There is the integral representation $\eta(s) = 2^{s-1} \displaystyle \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{\cos (s \arctan t)}{(1+t^{2})^{s/2} \cosh \left( \frac{\pi t}{2} \right)} \ dt $ which is valid for all complex values of $s$.

See here.Initially I had the sum of the residues expressed in terms of the Dirichlet eta function. Then I used that relationship to express it in terms of the Riemann zeta function.So $ \displaystyle \eta(0) = \frac{1}{2} \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{\cosh \left(\frac{\pi t}{2} \right) }\ dt = \frac{1}{2}(1) = \frac{1}{2} $
 
All right boys!... I realize that the series is known as 'Eta Function'...

$\displaystyle \eta(s) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^{n}}{(n+1)^{s}}\ (1)$

... and (1) is valid if $\text{Re} (s) > 0$. The series in (1) is 'alternate sign' and almost immediately after my post I remembered that some year ago I used the formula...

$\displaystyle \zeta (s) = \frac{\eta(s)}{1 - 2^{1-s}}\ (2)$

... for the computation of the function $\zeta(*)$ along the 'critical line' $\displaystyle s = \frac{1}{2} + i\ t$. A direct approach using (1) for $\text{Re} (s) = \frac{1}{2}$ has the drawback of very slow convergence, so that I used the so called 'Euler's Transformation' that consists in what follows: if we have an alternate signs series, then is... $\displaystyle \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}\ a_{n} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n}\ \frac{\Delta^{n} a_{0}}{2^{n+1}}\ (3)$

... where...

$\displaystyle \Delta^{n} a_{0} = \sum_{k=0}^{n} (-1)^{k}\ \binom{n}{k}\ a_{n-k}\ (4)$

Very well!... now we remember the binomial expansion... $\displaystyle (1 - x)^{n} = \sum_{k=0}^{n} (-1)^{k}\ \binom{n}{k}\ x^{k}\ (5)$

... that for x=1 is 0 for any value on n... with the only exception of n=0 for which is [no matter if someone doesn't like it (Tongueout)...] $0^{0}=1$. The consequence is that for s=0 we have... $\displaystyle \eta (0) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^{n}\ 0^{n}} {2^{n+1}}= \frac{1}{2}\ (6)$

Is all that true?... probably yes... even if with the Riemann Zeta Function nothing is 100 % sure... Kind regards $\chi$ $\sigma$
 
@ chisigma

I'm curious what was unsatisfactory about my post.

I offered an integral representation of the Dirichlet eta function that defines the function everywhere (as opposed to a series representation that only defines the function for certain values), and a way to derive that representation that doesn't require any knowledge of the Riemann zeta function.

Finding $\eta(0)$ then became equivalent to evaluating a simple definite integral.
 
Random Variable said:
@ chisigma

I'm curious what was unsatisfactory about my post.

I offered an integral representation of the Dirichlet eta function that defines the function everywhere (as opposed to a series representation that only defines the function for certain values), and a way to derive that representation that doesn't require any knowledge of the Riemann zeta function.

Finding $\eta(0)$ then became equivalent to evaluating a simple definite integral.

If the scope is to compute the $\eta(*)$ evaluating a 'simple definite integral' the integral You propose [extended from 0 to $\infty$...] isn't quite 'simple'... much more 'pratical' may be is the following integral...

$\displaystyle \eta(s) = \frac{1}{\Gamma(s)}\ \int_{0}^{1} \int_{0}^{1} \frac{\{- \ln (x\ y)\}^{s-2}}{1 + x\ y}\ d x\ dy\ (1)$

The scope of my post was only to answer to my curiosity...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
@chisigma, you seem to be mixing up summability theorems and ideas together.

The way you showed the Grandi's series converges up to 1/2 through Euler acceleration stands, but not in the Cauchy sense. And it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that zeta at 0 is -1/2 or eta at 0 is 1/2. The formula RV showed is indeed correct and a doable analytic continuation in the complex plane.

You must see the difference between ACs and Summability methods.

Balarka
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mathbalarka said:
Actually, the fact that $$\lim_{s \to 0^+} \eta(s)$$ is 1/2 has pretty much nothing to do with $$\zeta(0) = -1/2$$ ...

If $$\zeta(s) (1-2^{1-s})=\eta(s)$$

Does not that already prove $$\lim_{s\to 0^+} \eta(s) = \frac{1}{2}$$
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
If $$\zeta(s) (1-2^{1-s})=\eta(s)$$

Does not that already prove $$\lim_{s\to 0^+} \eta(s) = \frac{1}{2}$$

I think he meant that you can't infer from that relationship that $ \displaystyle \lim_{s \to 0^{+}} \sum_{s=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^{n-1}}{n^{s}} = \frac{1}{2}$.

What you can infer is that $\displaystyle \eta(0) = \frac{1}{2}$.
 
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mathbalarka said:
Actually, the fact that $$\lim_{s \to 0^+} \eta(s)$$ is 1/2 has pretty much nothing to do with $$\zeta(0) = -1/2$$. The former can be proved by using the fact that Grandi's series (i.e., $$\eta(0)$$) is basically the power series expansion of $$\frac1{1+z}$$ at $$z = 1$$.

Adding curiosity to curiosity I can say that the Italian mathematician and philosoph Guido Grandi was born in the year 1671 in Cremona, the same town in North Italy where I was born 280 years later!... the most famous of his 'inventions' is probably the following series...

$\displaystyle S = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-1)^{n} = 1 - 1 + 1 - 1 + ...\ (1)$

Grandi himself wrote that his scope was to do an example of alternating signs series that doesn't converge. Successive [very poor...] 'mathematicians' however tried to 'demonstrate' the convergence of (1) in very fun way like these... a) $\displaystyle S = (1 - 1) + (1 - 1) + ... = 0 + 0 + ... = 0$

b) $\displaystyle S = 1 - (1 - 1) - (1 - 1) - ... = 1 - 0 - 0 -... = 1$

c) $\displaystyle S = 1 - (1 - 1 + 1 -...) = 1 - S \implies S = \frac{1}{2}$

No comments!:cool:...Kind regards $\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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I know the derivation of Grandi. Although the result stands (not in Cauchy's world) in the Abelian sense, his derivation doesn't. The best way to converge the divergent Grandi's series is to use Abelian theorems.

Try this, it will help : Divergent series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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