A discontinuous refrigerant cycle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced in using a refrigerant cycle for cooling water in a batch production setting. Participants explore the implications of shutting down the refrigerant unit and the resulting subcooling of water, which affects its suitability for subsequent batches.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the issue of subcooling occurring when the refrigerant unit is turned off, leading to unsuitable fluid temperatures for the next batch.
  • Another participant questions the clarity of the original inquiry, suggesting that turning off the refrigerant unit is a straightforward response to not needing it.
  • A different participant proposes several potential solutions, including shutting off the cooler before the batch ends, adding a heater to adjust temperatures, or selling the chiller.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the resolution of the problem, with some suggesting practical solutions while others question the necessity of the refrigerant unit's operation in a batch context. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to manage the cooling process.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the specific operational requirements of the refrigerant unit in relation to batch production, as well as the assumptions about the cooling needs during the transition phases.

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Hi there, I went to a learning visit to a small plant where it was intended to use a refrigerant cycle to cool down water used in a heat exchanger; from what I've gathered they had to stop using the refrigerant unit altogether as they're doing little batch productions per day, resulting in having to turn off the unit multiple times per day. During the shutting down phase the water sub cools as it has nothing to exchange heat with (as the batch has already ended and the heat exchanger is empty).

My professor didn't have an answer for me, is there really no way to resolve this and being able to use the refrigerant unit accounting for the final transitionary phase ? Thanks
 
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LEO31 said:
My professor didn't have an answer for me, is there really no way to resolve this and being able to use the refrigerant unit accounting for the final transitionary phase ?
I don't understand the question (maybe your prof didn't either?). Resolve what? Use the refrigerant unit for what? When you stop needing it you turn it off and it stops working....
 
From what I understood while turning the refrigerant unit off the water cools too much as there's no more product to exchange heat with. This sub cooling effect makes the fluid unsuitable for the next batch and allegedly it's the reason why they are not using the unit anymore. Obviously this wouldn't be a problem if the process was continuous but they now switched to a batch production. Hope I made my self clearer
 
Shut off the cooler shortly before the batch ends,
OR​
Add a heater to reheat for the next batch,
OR​
Sell the chiller on the Used Equipment market.
 
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