A few questions about GRE & PGRE (nothing score related)

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The discussion revolves around questions related to the Physics Graduate Record Examination (PGRE) and the Graduate Record Examination (GRE), focusing on preparation strategies, course prerequisites, and timing for taking the exams. Participants share their experiences and insights regarding the content and study resources for the PGRE, as well as the implications of course scheduling on exam readiness.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a solid understanding of the introductory physics sequence may suffice for the PGRE, while others argue that more advanced coursework is necessary to achieve a decent score.
  • Some participants propose that upper-division courses in mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, and high energy physics are important for preparation, along with calculus and linear algebra.
  • There is a discussion about the timing of taking the PGRE in relation to course completion, with concerns raised about the commonality of taking a year off between undergraduate and graduate studies.
  • One participant shares their experience with the PGRE, noting a discrepancy in score percentiles compared to previous years, suggesting that the exam may have become easier over time.
  • Another participant emphasizes that it is possible to study for the PGRE independently of taking the advanced courses first.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of introductory courses for the PGRE, with some asserting that additional upper-division coursework is essential, while others maintain that success is possible with just the introductory sequence. The timing of taking the exams and its implications for graduate school applications also remains a point of contention.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the perceived difficulty of the PGRE may have changed over the years, with some suggesting that practice tests may not accurately reflect the current exam format or difficulty level.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for the PGRE or GRE, particularly those considering the timing of their exams in relation to their coursework and graduate school applications.

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Hello PF, I have some questions regarding the PGRE in particular.

1) I heard most of the questions on the PGRE can be answered with knowledge of the Introductory Physics Sequence (intro mechanics, e&m, thermal, quantum). At the most, you would need to take one intermediate course (intermediate mechanics) before taking the PGRE.
Is this all true? Should I take it some time after i finish intro sequence? (which I already have finished)

2) What sources would you suggest are best for studying for PGRE? i.e. Kaplan..PR:Cracking GRE...etc.? Links/titles would be appreciated. Also we didnt use textbooks for intro sequence, only notes the prof wrote up.

3) As far as the GRE goes, I am guessing the math in there is mathematics we already know/should know. If not, what source is best for studying for that math? Doesn't have to be a specific title..

4) If I want to begin enrolment in the Fall of the upcoming years..i.e. Fall 20xx, when is the optimal time to take it the PGRE/GRE beforehand?

Thanks guys/gals ^^
 
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Anybody..? D: I'm surprised nobody is replying since so many people here have taken this exam..
 
The thread probably just hit a lull and got missed by most people. I know I never noticed this one come up.

Anyhow, no, you need more than the intro series to be honest. I think theoretically you could get a half decent score with just intro courses, but you would have to have a nearly perfect understanding of the material. This would also mean there were questions you would have to skip as they really are upper-division material.

I'd suggest having your upper division mechanics, e/m, quantum, and high energy physics down along with all your calculus and linear algebra done. Of course, those should be at the upper-division and not graduate level. That's not to say the majority of stuff WILL be upper division, but there will definitely be a lot of questions that you probably won't see until then.
 
Pengwuino said:
The thread probably just hit a lull and got missed by most people. I know I never noticed this one come up.

Anyhow, no, you need more than the intro series to be honest. I think theoretically you could get a half decent score with just intro courses, but you would have to have a nearly perfect understanding of the material. This would also mean there were questions you would have to skip as they really are upper-division material.

I'd suggest having your upper division mechanics, e/m, quantum, and high energy physics down along with all your calculus and linear algebra done. Of course, those should be at the upper-division and not graduate level. That's not to say the majority of stuff WILL be upper division, but there will definitely be a lot of questions that you probably won't see until then.

Thanks for the reply :)

That is what I figured at first, but I will not have my advanced Quantum class until the Fall semester of my senior year. Which means I can't take the exam until that Winter/Spring. Most schools stop accepting applications around that winter. Is this a problem? Or is this pretty common having to take a year off between undergrad/Grad school?
 
twofu said:
Thanks for the reply :)

That is what I figured at first, but I will not have my advanced Quantum class until the Fall semester of my senior year. Which means I can't take the exam until that Winter/Spring. Most schools stop accepting applications around that winter. Is this a problem? Or is this pretty common having to take a year off between undergrad/Grad school?

No it's not common. It's also not un common to take more than 4 years to graduate. The obvious solution for your problem is to simply study it beforehand. You don't have to wait until you take a class to start studying. And again, you CAN do without the course. The thing with the GRE is that you are not expected to answer every question right, let alone every question period!

The first time I took the PGRE, I answered 65 questions and got 49 right giving me a raw score of 45 and was in the 50th percentile. Personally, I don't know if this is a new approach they've been taking, but all the practice tests that are online are way different (they're 10-20 years old). The score breakdowns back in the day had a raw score of like 30 being 50th percentile. Back in the day it seemed almost impossible to answer 3/4 of the questions correctly. Now I don't know, I think they're making problems a lot easier so it may benefit those who haven't taken advanced courses yet.
 

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