A few questions about the Taylor series

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The discussion revolves around understanding the Taylor series, its representation of functions as infinite sums, and the conditions under which these series converge. Participants explore the implications of convergence and the relationship between the series and the functions they represent.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how an infinite series can represent a function and seeks clarification on the Taylor series.
  • Another participant mentions that the Taylor series is a special case of the polynomial approximation theorem, providing a link for further reading.
  • A participant questions the domain and range of a series, noting that a function has its own domain and range.
  • One reply suggests that a series can be considered a function if it converges, providing an example of a geometric series to illustrate this point.
  • A later contribution states that the Taylor series may not always converge, and even when it does, it may not equal the function value, introducing the concept of analyticity.
  • Another participant emphasizes that if a series converges to a function, its domain and range are the same as that of the function, but acknowledges that convergence may only occur in a neighborhood around a point.
  • One participant clarifies that their statement about series converging to functions did not specifically refer to Taylor series, highlighting the need for precision in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions of convergence for Taylor series and the implications of such convergence. There is no consensus on the nuances of these concepts, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of convergence and representation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the Taylor series may not converge everywhere and that its convergence can be limited to a neighborhood around a specific point. The discussion highlights the complexity of defining functions through series and the conditions under which this is valid.

Shing
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When I tried to learn the Taylor series , I could not comprehend why a infinite series can represent a function

Would anyone be kind enough to teach me the Taylor series? thank you:smile:

the Taylor series is a representation of a function as an infinite sum of terms calculated from the values of its derivatives at a single point.

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{f^{(n)}(a)}{n!}(x-a)^n[/tex]

PS. I am 18 , having the high school Math knowledge including Calculus
 
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you can also consider a serie as a function

[tex]f(x) = \sum_0^{\infty} \frac{f^{(n)(a)}}{n!}(x-a)^n[/tex]

if the sum converges this is nothing but a function, to each x you get a number, namely the sum of the series.

Mayby an example is in place.

Lets say we define a function by

[tex]f(x) = \sum_0^{\infty} (g(x))^n[/tex]

where [tex]g: \mathhb{R} \rightarrow ]0,1[[/tex], is this series a function you could say. But because the range of g i ]0,1[ this is just the geometric series, that is

[tex]f(x) = \sum_0^{\infty} (g(x))^n = \frac{1}{1-g(x)}[/tex]

so this is indeed a function. So you see that a series is a function if the sum converges. It's although not always possible to find a so simple expression like here for the serie.
 
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a little text from wikipedia

The Taylor series need not in general be a convergent series, but often it is. The limit of a convergent Taylor series need not in general be equal to the function value f(x), but often it is. If f(x) is equal to its Taylor series in a neighborhood of a, it is said to be analytic in this neighborhood. If f(x) is equal to its Taylor series everywhere it is called entire.
 
Shing said:
thank you for your help
But I don't really got it..
A function has its own domain and range... but what is the domain and range of a series?

?? If a series converges to a function, then it's domain and range are exactly that of the function, of course. A series, depending on a variable x, is a function. You seem to think there is something special about using a series to define a function.
 
HallsofIvy said:
?? If a series converges to a function, then it's domain and range are exactly that of the function, of course. A series, depending on a variable x, is a function. You seem to think there is something special about using a series to define a function.

you are right, but sometimes the taylor series only converges in a neigborhood around the point a, and sometimes it doesn't converges at all. So to say that if the series converges then it is equal to the function is a bit loose, I agree on that for those x where the series converges, then on those x they agree. Actually that is probably what you meen, but just to make it clear.
 
I didn't say that! I said that if a series converges, it is necessarily equal to a function. I didn't say anything about the series being a Taylor's series.
 

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