Discussion Overview
This thread focuses on finding a general formula for the integral $$I(a,t) = \int^t_0 x \log|\sin(a x )| \, dx$$, with participants exploring various special cases, transformations, and related integrals. The discussion includes theoretical aspects, mathematical reasoning, and specific evaluations.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant proposes a special case evaluation of the integral for $$I(1,\frac{\pi}{2})$$, leading to a specific result involving the Riemann zeta function.
- Another participant discusses the generalized form of the integral and introduces the Clausen function, suggesting a conjecture for $$I_0(t,1)$$ based on previous results.
- A different approach is presented that involves a substitution and the use of the logarithmic sine series, leading to a series representation of the integral.
- Further evaluations of the integral for specific values of $$a$$ and $$t$$ are provided, with results expressed in terms of Clausen functions and zeta functions.
- Participants share manipulations and relationships between different integral evaluations, indicating potential connections and simplifications.
- There are expressions of appreciation for contributions and insights shared among participants, indicating a collaborative atmosphere.
- One participant notes the difficulty in expressing certain Clausen function values in terms of elementary functions, suggesting further exploration may be needed.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants present multiple competing views and approaches to the integral, with no consensus reached on a single method or result. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the general formula and specific evaluations.
Contextual Notes
Participants note limitations in expressing certain results in terms of elementary functions and the dependency on specific assumptions regarding the parameters $$a$$ and $$t$$.
Who May Find This Useful
Readers interested in advanced mathematical integrals, particularly those involving logarithmic and trigonometric functions, as well as those studying special functions like the Clausen and Riemann zeta functions.