A good reference sheet/manual about Einstein index notation?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of understanding and applying Einstein index notation, particularly in the context of derivatives and more complex expressions in theoretical physics. Participants seek resources or reference materials that provide guidance on advanced applications of the notation, especially in relation to Lagrangians and action integrals in quantum field theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty with Einstein notation, particularly when dealing with complex examples involving multiple indices and calculus.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the specific types of relations the original poster is seeking references for, focusing on derivatives.
  • The original poster mentions confusion regarding the transition from the relativistic EM Lagrangian to the action integral kernel, highlighting issues with understanding the notation for derivatives like ##\partial^2##.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of repeated indices in derivatives, with a participant stating that repeating an index is not permissible unless one is "downstairs" and the other is "upstairs".
  • The original poster expresses a desire for a cheatsheet that outlines legitimate substitutions and the appearance of prefactors in derivation and integration, as well as a reference for exercises with solutions to build confidence in using the notation.

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Participants generally agree on the challenges posed by Einstein notation and the need for clearer resources. However, there is no consensus on specific reference materials or solutions to the issues raised.

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The discussion highlights limitations in available resources for self-learners, particularly regarding advanced applications of Einstein notation and the nuances of derivatives in theoretical physics.

Gan_HOPE326
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I'm not used to Einstein notation and I'm struggling a bit with the more complex examples of it. I got the general gist of it and can follow the basic cases but get sometimes a bit lost when there are a lot of indexes and calculus is involved. All primers I've found online for now only give the basic rules - sum over repeated indices, Kronecker delta, Levi-Civita symbol, and that's it. Is there some good 'reference sheet' I could use to look up more sophisticated cases like those involving derivation rules? I realize they can easily be derived from considering the represented sum, and in some cases I manage to do that, but the convenience of the notation should be to avoid having to write sums explicitly all the time, and knowing the rule beforehand I could at least work out why and how it applies and then trust it going forward. Thanks!
 
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Can you give an example of the type of relation that you would like to have a reference for?
 
Orodruin said:
Can you give an example of the type of relation that you would like to have a reference for?

Mostly derivatives. I struggled quite a bit some days ago with understanding how you got from the relativistic EM Lagrangian

$$\mathcal{L} = -\frac{1}{4}F_{\mu\nu}F^{\mu\nu}$$

to the kernel of the action integral used in QFT

$$\frac{1}{2}A_\mu(\partial^2g^{\mu\nu}-\partial^\mu\partial^\nu)A_\nu$$

Part of this was because of not realising an integration by parts was happening in the process (I actually made a previous thread about it) but part of it was confusion about the meaning for example of ##\partial^2##, whether it was meant to represent ##\partial_\mu\partial_\mu## or ##\partial_\mu\partial^\mu##. Similarly today I ran into a case in which a derivative of a product of indexed quantities gives an additional factor of 2 - which is pretty obvious when carrying out the sum, but I would have probably missed if I didn't expand, and for more complex expressions that might become annoying (luckily for me, this one was simply a toy model of GR in 1+1 spacetime, so not many indices).

I guess what I'd hope for is some cheatsheet especially for derivation and integration. Which substitutions are legitimate to carry out, which prefactors appear and such. I imagine most people get this kind of knowledge through doing exercises in their relativity course, but unfortunately since I'm working on this on my own I don't get that luxury, and theory books I put my hands on tend to skim over all this. In alternative, a good reference for exercises with solutions I can carry out to learn more the basics and feel more confident with it would do the trick as well I guess.
 
Gan_HOPE326 said:
whether it was meant to represent ##\partial_\mu\partial_\mu## or ##\partial_\mu\partial^\mu##.
Well, ##\partial_\mu\partial_\mu## doesn't make sense because you're not allowed to repeat an index unless one is "downstairs" and the other is "upstairs".
 
DrGreg said:
Well, ##\partial_\mu\partial_\mu## doesn't make sense because you're not allowed to repeat an index unless one is "downstairs" and the other is "upstairs".

Fair enough, yeah.
 

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