The discussion revolves around the concept of zero multiplication and its implications in social perception, particularly whether statements about quantities of zero can lead to paradoxical interpretations. Participants explore the mathematical and social dimensions of claiming relative amounts of zero coins.
Participants generally disagree on whether the situation constitutes a paradox. While some assert it is not a paradox from a mathematical standpoint, others highlight the potential for social misinterpretation, indicating a lack of consensus.
Some participants express uncertainty about the implications of their statements, and there is a noted dependence on the definitions of terms like "twice as much" and "more." The discussion also reflects varying levels of comfort with the language used to articulate these concepts.
No paradox. You want to solve the equation A=xB, where x is the multiplier of how many more coins Anna has than Bertus. Now since A = B, then x = 1, or A/B = 1.Krokodzilla said:If Anna has 0 coins and Bertus has 0 coins aswell. Can you say that Anna has twice as much coins as Bertus? Because 2*0=0. But couldn`t you also say that Anna has four times more coins than Bertus, but simultaneously Bertus has 5 times more coins than Anna? Making it a paradox?
Its not a paradox even in that sense. You can test it. Tomorrow, go out and explain it to the first person you see and ask whether s\he thinks this is a paradox. Chances are very high that s\he tells you this is not a paradox and explains the reason very quickly.Krokodzilla said:I agree mathimatically, but in a social concept where Anna says she has twice as much coins than Bertus, while Bertus can say at the same time he has 5 times more as coins than Anna.
Yes, because 0=0, no matter how those zeroes look like!Krokodzilla said:If it`sa paradox ir not is not really my point, sorry english isn`t my native language. I mean can Anna say that she has twice as more coins than Bertus and Bertus can say at the same time that he has 5 tikes as much coins than Anna?
Krokodzilla said:I agree mathimatically, but in a social concept where Anna says she has twice as much coins than Bertus, while Bertus can say at the same time he has 5 times more as coins than Anna.