A little help with this Taylor expansion please?

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The discussion revolves around the Taylor expansion of a function transformed by a translation operator, specifically T(a)y(x) = y(x+a). The original poster is attempting to expand y(x+a) as a Taylor series to demonstrate a relationship with the operator T(a) expressed as e^(ipa), where p is defined as -i(d/dx).

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty in applying the Taylor expansion to y(x+a) and seeks clarification on the correct form of the expansion. Some participants suggest comparing the Taylor series to the operator expansion of e^(ipa) and provide insights into the structure of the series.

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Participants have provided guidance on the Taylor series expansion and its application to the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of different forms of the Taylor series and how to manipulate the variables involved. The original poster acknowledges the assistance received but still expresses confusion regarding the transition from the basic Taylor series to the specific case of y(x+a).

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The original poster indicates a concern about understanding this material in the context of an upcoming exam, highlighting the importance of grasping the underlying concepts rather than just the mechanics of the expansion.

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I have this translation operator T(a) that acts on a function y(x) and causes the transformation T(a)y(x) = y(x+a).
I am supposed to be "expanding y(x+a) as a taylor series in a" to show that T(a)=eipa, where p is the operator p = -i.d/dx]
So, I've started out with the general equation for the Taylor expansion, to expand, say, f(x) about the point x=a:
[tex]f(x) = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{\frac{d^n}{dx^n}f(x=a)}{n!} (x-a)^n[/tex]

I've used this plenty of times before but only when I have been expanding something like f(x) rather than, say, f(x+c), so I'm making mistakes and messing up when I try and work through this problem.
Anyway, back to the original thing I'm trying to expand out. What I've got so far is:

[tex]y(x+a) = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{\frac{d^n}{dx^n}y(x+a = ?)}{n!}[(x+a)- ?]^n[/tex]

Where I've left the question marks is where I'm not certain what to use. My y(x) expansion is otherwise the same way as the general formula for f(x) just with x+a replacing f(x).
I know I'm supposed to end up with something of the same form as [tex]e^x = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{x^n}{n!} = 1 + x + \frac{x^2}{2} + ...[/tex] but I just can't seem to get there.
 
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The taylor expansion of y(x+a) is the sum over n of D_n(y(x))*a^n/n! where D_n(y(x)) denotes the nth derivative of y evaluated at x, isn't it? Compare that with the operator expansion of exp(ipa) applied to y(x).
 
Thanks. This does work apparently:

[tex]Y(x+a) = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{\frac{d^n}{dx^n}Y(x)}{n!}a^n = \frac{1}{0!}a^0Y(x) + \frac{1}{1!}a^1\frac{d}{dx}Y(x) + \frac{1}{2!}a^2\frac{d^2}{dx^2}Y(x) + ...[/tex]
[tex]= Y(x) + a\frac{d}{dx}Y(x) + \frac{1}{2!}a^2\frac{d^2}{dx^2}Y(x) + ...[/tex]
[tex]= Y(x) + aipY(x) + \frac{1}{2}(aip)^2Y(x) + ...[/tex]
[tex]= Y(x) + aipY(x) - \frac{1}{2}a^2p^2Y(x) + ...[/tex]
[tex]= (1 + aip - \frac{1}{2}a^2p^2 + ...)Y(x)[/tex]
[tex]= e^{iap}Y(x) = T(a)Y(x)[/tex] where [tex]e^{iap} = 1 + aip - \frac{1}{2}a^2p^2 + ...[/tex] and [tex]p = -i(d/dx)[/tex]

However, I'm not sure why this is. I would not have been able to do this if you hadn't told me. Certainly this sort of thing would shaft me in an exam (which I have soon). How do we get from the basic Taylor series expansion for, say, y(x), to the one that you gave me for y(x+a)? If it's too much to be bothered typing out, a link to a webpage would be nice.
 
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Your original form is
[tex]f(x) = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{\frac{d^n}{dx^n}f(a)}{n!} (x-a)^n[/tex]
Interchange a and x since you want the derivatives evaluated at x,
[tex]f(a) = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{\frac{d^n}{dx^n}f(x)}{n!} (a-x)^n[/tex]
Now you don't want f(a) you want f(x+a), so put change a->x+a.
[tex]f(x+a) = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{\frac{d^n}{dx^n}f(x)}{n!} (a)^n[/tex]
There's lot's of ways to write the taylor series.
 
Dick said:
Your original form is
[tex]f(x) = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{\frac{d^n}{dx^n}f(a)}{n!} (x-a)^n[/tex]
Interchange a and x since you want the derivatives evaluated at x,
[tex]f(a) = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{\frac{d^n}{dx^n}f(x)}{n!} (a-x)^n[/tex]
Now you don't want f(a) you want f(x+a), so put change a->x+a.
[tex]f(x+a) = \sum^{\infty}_{0} \frac{\frac{d^n}{dx^n}f(x)}{n!} (a)^n[/tex]
There's lot's of ways to write the taylor series.

ahh of course, thanks man... maths ey? it's always so simple in hindsight.
 

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