A monkey falls from a tree problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a kinematics problem involving a monkey falling from a tree and a dart being shot horizontally. Participants express confusion about determining the time it takes for the monkey to hit the ground and how to calculate the dart's vertical velocity and displacement. It is clarified that both the monkey and dart fall at the same rate, and the meeting point can be determined by analyzing their respective motions. The equations of motion are emphasized, with a focus on the need to account for both horizontal and vertical components. The final goal is to find the conditions under which the dart hits the monkey just before it reaches the ground.
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Homework Statement



http://imgur.com/YEVAL

Homework Equations



x= x.initial + v.initial(t) + .5(a)t^2

v= v.initial + at

v^2= v.initial^2 + 2ad

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried plugging into above formulas but there were too many unknowns.
I'm not sure what I'm missing. Please help, I'm sure this is a simple question.
Also, only kinematics allowed, not potential energy.
 
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The angle theta can be determined from the givens. Both the dart and monkey fall at the same rate downward. Better get the monkey before it hits the ground at what time?
 
PhanthomJay said:
The angle theta can be determined from the givens. Both the dart and monkey fall at the same rate downward. Better get the monkey before it hits the ground at what time?
I don't know how to get the time
 
How long does it take the monkey to hit the ground? Use one of the kinematic equations knowing the vertical distance and the downward acceleration of the monkey. You listed it already.
 
ok thanks
 
also what should my displacement be. should i use -10-0 or something to do with y. I am confused on that part
 
ok i got the time. but i don't know how to find vertical velocity because i don't know what to use for displacement of dart.
 
what do h and y have to do with the question
 
There 3 motions here.
1. the dart traveling horizontally.
2. the dart traveling vertically
3. monkey traveled vertically.

It means the monkey and dart are at same location after traveling at same time when they meet.

Let the time=t
Let the point of meeting at coordinate x,y.
 
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is the answer 33.725 m/s. I used -1.2 meters for displacement because the question wanted minimum velocity and that meant when the monkey hit the ground, the dart would hit him, right? And from the diagram, we see the gun is 1.2 meters above ground by 11.2-10. Is this right?
 
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azizlwl said:
There 3 motions here.
1. the dart traveling horizontally.
2. the dart traveling vertically
3. monkey traveled vertically.

It means the monkey and dart are at same location after traveling at same time when they meet.

Let the time=t
Let the point of meeting at coordinate x,y.

Write all the equations for 3 motions I've mentioned and we will check if they need any corrections.

Let the initial velocity = v, angle=θ
 
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