Undergrad Time Paradox: A & B's Clocks Move Differently

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The discussion clarifies that the apparent time dilation experienced by astronauts A and B, who are traveling toward each other at constant speed, does not create a paradox. Each astronaut perceives the other's clock as ticking slower due to the relativity of simultaneity. The use of Lorentz transformations demonstrates that both perspectives are compatible and do not contradict each other. Thus, the situation is resolved without leading to a paradox, as the physical laws remain consistent across different inertial frames.

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  • Understanding of special relativity concepts
  • Familiarity with Lorentz transformations
  • Knowledge of proper time and coordinate time
  • Basic grasp of the relativity of simultaneity
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Two astronauts A and B are traveling at constant speed, one toward the other. From astronaut A's point of view, his partner B's clock is ticking at a slower rate than his. From astronaut B's point of view, it is his partner A's clock ticking at a slower rate. Does this set up a paradox? Because?
 
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SaintRodriguez said:
Does this set up a paradox?
No.
SaintRodriguez said:
Because?
The relativity of simultaneity. Set up the problem formally for one observer and use the Lorentz transforms to get the other observer's perspective and you'll see what's going on.
 
SaintRodriguez said:
Does this set up a paradox? Because?
No. Because it is not the right form for a paradox.

A paradox is something like ##a<b## and ##b<a##. But that is not what we have here.

Let ##\tau_A## be the proper time of clock A and ##t_A## be the coordinate time in frame where A is at rest. Similarly for ##\tau_B## and ##t_B##.

Then “From astronaut A's point of view, his partner B's clock is ticking at a slower rate than his” means $$\frac{d\tau_B}{dt_A}<1$$

And “From astronaut B's point of view, it is his partner A's clock ticking at a slower rate” means $$\frac{d\tau_A}{dt_B}<1$$

Both of these statements are perfectly compatible. They do not contradict each other. Hence it is not a paradox.
 
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Two astronauts A and B are traveling at constant speed, one toward the other. From astronaut A's point of view, his partner B's clock is ticking at a slower rate than his. From astronaut B's point of view, it is his partner A's clock ticking at a slower rate. Does this set up a paradox? Because?
Do you consider the following as a paradox? Because?

From astronaut A's point of view, his partner B moved via a greater spatial distance than himself, because A regards himself to be at rest. From astronaut B's point of view, it is his partner A's travel distance, which is the greater one.
 
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SaintRodriguez said:
Two astronauts A and B are traveling at constant speed, one toward the other. From astronaut A's point of view, his partner B's clock is ticking at a slower rate than his. From astronaut B's point of view, it is his partner A's clock ticking at a slower rate. Does this set up a paradox? Because?
It doesn't lead to a paradox, because the Lorentz transformation from one inertial frame of reference to another is a one-to-one map between coordinates, and the physical laws are covariant, looking the same when expressed in any inertial frame of reference.
 
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It doesn't lead to a paradox, because the Lorentz transformation from one inertial frame of reference to another is a one-to-one map between coordinates, and the physical laws are covariant, looking the same when expressed in any inertial frame of reference.
Such a concise explanation.
 

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