A Physics Misconception with Gauss’ Law

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around misconceptions related to Gauss' Law, particularly in the context of transitioning from lower-level to upper-level electromagnetism (E&M) courses. Participants share personal experiences and observations regarding the challenges faced when applying Gauss' Law, especially in non-standard geometries.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recount personal experiences of struggling with Gauss' Law, particularly when applying it to geometries like a circular ring with linear charge density.
  • There is a suggestion that the limitations of Gauss' Law are not always clear to students transitioning to more advanced physics courses.
  • One participant expresses concern that oversimplification in teaching methods may complicate understanding of the subject, particularly regarding the mathematical foundations necessary for E&M.
  • Another participant notes that they have observed similar errors in understanding Gauss' Law among peers, indicating a broader issue within the community.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of vector calculus in formulating physics concepts, suggesting that understanding the differential form of Maxwell's equations may provide clearer insights than the integral form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges posed by Gauss' Law and the impact of teaching methods on student understanding. However, there is no consensus on the best approach to address these misconceptions or the effectiveness of current pedagogical strategies.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the dependence on specific geometries and the potential for misunderstanding when applying Gauss' Law. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and interpretations regarding the teaching and learning of E&M concepts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students transitioning from introductory to advanced physics courses, educators looking to understand common misconceptions in teaching E&M, and anyone interested in the pedagogical challenges associated with complex physics concepts.

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Orodruin said:
I kid you not. After doing very well in lower level undergrad physics I moved onto the Griffiths level class and I got a 1/30 on the first test because I applied Gauss’ Law to circular ring with linear charge density proportional to ## /cos /theta ##. Find the field on the axis. And since ##/cos /theta## evaluates to ##0## when integrated over ##\left[ 0, 2 \pi \right] ## I thought the field was also ##0##.

I really thought at the the time that Gauss’ Law was all that I needed to know. I asked my professor if the grade was a mistake and he said “no your performance was truly dismal”.

I ended up retaking the class and studied my ass off by doing damn near every problem in the first 7-8 chapters and ended up earning his respect “I saw how hard you worked and I am very pleased with your progress”.

Realizing the limitations of Gauss’ Law might be trivial for those who have had years of experience but it’s a huge stumbling block for a lot of people (not just me) making the jump from lower level E&M to upper level E&M so I’m sure some younger students will benefit greatly from this article.
 
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PhDeezNutz said:
Realizing the limitations of Gauss’ Law might be trivial for those who have had years of experience but it’s a huge stumbling block for a lot of people (not just me) making the jump from lower level E&M to upper level E&M so I’m sure some younger students will benefit greatly from this article.
This is the hope. I have seen this kind of error ”more than once” here at PF.
 
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Orodruin said:
This is the hope. I have seen this kind of error ”more than once” here at PF.

So I’m not alone!
 
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You are not, and in my opinion it's the result of some well-meaning didadictics to "simplify" but making the subject in fact more complicated. There is some unfortunate idea in the didactics community that "math is too difficult". Of course, it's some effort to learn the math, and here it's vector calculus, which is a lot of material, but at the end it makes the physics more easy to formulate: The Maxwell equations in their "local form", i.e., as differential equations are the fundamental equations. The integral form can be easily derived from them when needed, and usually they are "more complicated" than the "local form".
 
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Excellent thread.

Thanks
Bill
 
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