A practice problem with Schrodinger equation

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Schrödinger equation, specifically in the context of a problem where the energy is set to zero. Participants are exploring the implications of this condition within quantum mechanics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the form of the time-independent Schrödinger equation and the consequences of setting E=0. There are inquiries about the potential energy function for a simple harmonic oscillator and the presence of constant terms in the wave function. Some participants express confusion about the role of time in the equation and the notation used for wave functions.

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There is an active exploration of the mathematical structure of the Schrödinger equation and its implications. Participants are questioning assumptions about the wave function and its components, while also seeking clarification on the relationship between spatial and temporal parts of the solution. Guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the wave function and its terms.

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Some participants express uncertainty about specific terms and their roles in the equation, indicating a need for further clarification on the definitions and setups involved in the problem. There is a mention of a time constraint related to assignment deadlines.

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So my question is.. Is Schrödinger equation for this problem like this?:
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How to use the condition that E=0?

Thank you
 
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The time-independent Schrödinger equation is
$$-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\psi''(x) + V(x)\psi(x) = E\psi(x).$$ When you set ##E=0##, the righthand side becomes 0.
 
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vela said:
The time-independent Schrödinger equation is
$$-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\psi''(x) + V(x)\psi(x) = E\psi(x).$$ When you set ##E=0##, the righthand side becomes 0.
Exactly. And I solve it as this:
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Could you take a look if it's right? I thought this is probably too trivial that xmin is just 0?
 
I'd expect there should be a constant term as well.

The given wave function is one of the energy eigenstates for the simple harmonic oscillator. What's the potential energy function for the simple harmonic oscillator?
 
vela said:
I'd expect there should be a constant term as well.

The given wave function is one of the energy eigenstates for the simple harmonic oscillator. What's the potential energy function for the simple harmonic oscillator?
-1/2kx^2?

So where is the constant come from ?? the phi(x) got cancelled..

Thank you so much for answering my question!
 
##\psi''## should have two terms. Neither term disappears when you divide by ##\psi##.
 
vela said:
##\psi''## should have two terms. Neither term disappears when you divide by ##\psi##.
Thank you so much... I am doing it again
 
vela said:
##\psi''## should have two terms. Neither term disappears when you divide by ##\psi##.
So yes there's a constant! And I got another question: should I time a sai(t)? I am not familiar with it but I saw that phi(x,t) usually written to phi(x)*sai(t) and sai(t) is usually an exponential
 
drop_out_kid said:
So yes there's a constant! And I got another question: should I time a sai(t)? I am not familiar with it but I saw that phi(x,t) usually written to phi(x)*sai(t) and sai(t) is usually an exponential
I have no idea of what is a sai(t). But if you are solving the Schrödinger ///non-time-dependent/// equation (the one you posted (missing an E of energy) at the first post) you should not worry with time.
 
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LCSphysicist said:
I have no idea of what is a sai(t). But if you are solving the Schrödinger ///non-time-dependent/// equation (the one you posted (missing an E of energy) at the first post) you should not worry with time.
Yes I think so. Now I got last problem of my assignment and last hour of due, thank you !
 

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