A question about second cycle studies

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the choice of undergraduate programs in relation to pursuing a master's in applied physics. The original poster is considering whether to choose a degree in physics or astronomy, given that their desired master's program is not directly offered at their university. The conversation touches on the implications of course selection and program compatibility for future studies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses a preference for studying applied physics but is faced with a choice between physics and astronomy due to program availability.
  • Some participants suggest that if the only difference between the two programs is one class, pursuing a double major could be a viable option.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of considering long-term educational goals and whether the chosen program aligns with those goals, noting that early specialization may not be advisable.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential challenges an astronomy major might face in graduate programs that require knowledge of quantum mechanics.
  • The original poster indicates they are from a non-EU European country and are planning ahead for their university education, highlighting the similarity of the programs and the option to take additional subjects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of choosing between physics and astronomy, with some advocating for a double major and others cautioning against early specialization. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a variety of educational contexts, including geographic and institutional differences, which may influence the advice given. The original poster's situation is complicated by their specific circumstances and the timing of their decision-making process.

CounterTA
Hello fellow science enthusiasts!

I have a question about second cycle studies. I'm in my last year of high school and I wish to study applied physics. However, my choice of university doesn't offer a programme in applied physics.

For a first cycle I can pick Physics, Astronomy or Physics Ed. I won't study Physics ed for sure, and my dilemma is between astronomy and physics. Why? Because I've already spent time studying astronomy, and it'll be easier for me. However, can I pursue a master's in applied physics with an astronomy degree?

The programmes in astronomy and physics are almost identical, with the exception of the Astronomy degree having Observational and Theoretical Astrophysics in the place of Quantum Mechanics and Solid State Physics in the third year.

Thank you!
 
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If the only difference is one class, why not take both classes and get a double major?
 
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CounterTA said:
I wish to study applied physics. However, my choice of university doesn't offer a programme in applied physics.

First, I want to highlight this part of your post. While I understand there can be reasons for attending specific universities (cost/scholarships, geographic limitations, family responsibilities, etc.), it's also important to think long and hard about what you want out of your education and whether the program that you're signing up for is going to give you that. If not, is it a good choice to attend this particular program in the first place?

That said, it's late in August and it's pretty much too late to enroll somewhere else anyway. Your first year is likely going to be identical anyway, so your choice between the two programs is more-or-less arbitrary at this point. (I'm assuming you're in North America somewhere, where it's easy to transfer between programs.)

As a general rule of thumb, it's preferable not to specialize too much too early. A physics major can generally get into astronomy or astrophysics graduate programs. An astronomy major who doesn't have an upper year course in quantum mechanics may have some trouble being accepted into some graduate programs because quantum is a core topic that's covered in comprehensive examinations.
 
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Dishsoap said:
If the only difference is one class, why not take both classes and get a double major?

I have little knowledge of how university works and I didn't know that this was an option. I'll do some research and if possible, it seems reasonable to accept it.
Choppy said:
First, I want to highlight this part of your post. While I understand there can be reasons for attending specific universities (cost/scholarships, geographic limitations, family responsibilities, etc.), it's also important to think long and hard about what you want out of your education and whether the program that you're signing up for is going to give you that. If not, is it a good choice to attend this particular program in the first place?

I am still thinking about it. It's the best university I have access to.

Choppy said:
That said, it's late in August and it's pretty much too late to enroll somewhere else anyway. Your first year is likely going to be identical anyway, so your choice between the two programs is more-or-less arbitrary at this point. (I'm assuming you're in North America somewhere, where it's easy to transfer between programs.)

I'm from a non-EU european country. And I haven't yet finished high school, but I wish to plan things ahead of time and not rush. I'm going to uni next year. The programme is mostly identical, with 3 subjects being the only difference, and I will have the ability to pick them as additional subjects.

Thank you, both of you, for helping me.
 

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