A question about solving the energy eigenvalue of a given Hamiltonian operator

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The discussion revolves around solving the energy eigenvalue problem for a Hamiltonian operator representing a particle subject to a harmonic force and a homogeneous electrostatic field. Participants explore methods for addressing the problem, including the calculation of energy eigenvalues and the probability of finding the system in a specific quantum state.

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  • One participant presents the Hamiltonian operator and requests methods for solving the energy eigenvalue problem and calculating probabilities related to the ground state.
  • Another participant suggests completing the square for the x-dependent part of the Hamiltonian to recognize it as a shifted harmonic oscillator, emphasizing the importance of retaining a constant term.
  • A follow-up request for clarification on the eigenvalue of the completed square expression indicates a need for further detail on the mathematical manipulation involved.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the eigenvalue equation, showing how the transformation leads to a shifted origin and energy in the context of the harmonic oscillator.
  • Participants express appreciation for the assistance and indicate ongoing efforts to solve the problem.

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Participants generally agree on the approach of completing the square and transforming the Hamiltonian, but the discussion remains open-ended as no consensus is reached on the final steps or specific eigenvalues.

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The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps required to fully solve the eigenvalue problem, and assumptions regarding the parameters of the Hamiltonian are not explicitly stated.

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The problem is

A particle of mass m and electric charges q can move only in one dimension and is subject to a harmonic force and a homogeneous electrostatic field. The Hamiltonian operator for the system is
H= p2/2m +mw2/2*x2 - qεx

a. solve the energy eigenvalue problem
b. if the system is initially in the ground state of the unperturbed harmonic oscillator, ket= |0>, what is the probability of finding it in the ground state of the full Hamiltonian?

Could anybody offer some methods to handle this question? Thank you very much.
 
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I take it you have solved the harmonic oscillator.

This question is pretty much the same. The trick is to complete the square of the coordinate x-dependent part. That is, turn this:

[tex]ax^2 + bx[/tex]

into this:

[tex]a(x+\frac{b}{2a})^2 - (\frac{b}{2a})^2[/tex]

From there you should recognise the harmonic oscillator, only this time with some shifted origin plus a constant term in you Hamiltonian (which you shouldn't throw away).
 
xepma said:
I take it you have solved the harmonic oscillator.

This question is pretty much the same. The trick is to complete the square of the coordinate x-dependent part. That is, turn this:

[tex]ax^2 + bx[/tex]

into this:

[tex]a(x+\frac{b}{2a})^2 - (\frac{b}{2a})^2[/tex]

From there you should recognise the harmonic oscillator, only this time with some shifted origin plus a constant term in you Hamiltonian (which you shouldn't throw away).


Could you explain more detailedly? Because I wonder what is the eigenvalue of [tex]a(x+\frac{b}{2a})^2 - (\frac{b}{2a})^2[/tex]

Thank you very much, you really helped me.
 
So you start out with the basic eigenvalue equation:

[tex]H\psi = E \psi[/tex]

where, for simplicity, we have

[tex]H = T + ax^2 + bx[/tex]

where T is short for the kinetic energy.
Filling this in gives you the following eigenvalue equation:

[tex](T + ax^2 + bx )\psi = E \psi[/tex]

Now you perform the trick I explained earlier, which give you:

[tex]\left(T + a(x+\frac{b}{2a})^2-(\frac{b}{2a})^2\right)\psi = E \psi[/tex]
or:
[tex]\left(T + a(x+\frac{b}{2a})^2\right)\psi = (E+(\frac{b}{2a})^2) \psi[/tex]

Compare this with the standard form of a harmonic oscillator:

[tex]\left(T + \frac{m\omega}{2} y^2\right)\psi' = \epsilon \psi'[/tex]

As you can see, you now have a shifted origin of the harmonic oscillator, and a shifted energy.

I already brought you more than halfway there, so good luck with the rest of the steps ;)
 
xepma said:
So you start out with the basic eigenvalue equation:

[tex]H\psi = E \psi[/tex]

where, for simplicity, we have

[tex]H = T + ax^2 + bx[/tex]

where T is short for the kinetic energy.
Filling this in gives you the following eigenvalue equation:

[tex](T + ax^2 + bx )\psi = E \psi[/tex]

Now you perform the trick I explained earlier, which give you:

[tex]\left(T + a(x+\frac{b}{2a})^2-(\frac{b}{2a})^2\right)\psi = E \psi[/tex]
or:
[tex]\left(T + a(x+\frac{b}{2a})^2\right)\psi = (E+(\frac{b}{2a})^2) \psi[/tex]

Compare this with the standard form of a harmonic oscillator:

[tex]\left(T + \frac{m\omega}{2} y^2\right)\psi' = \epsilon \psi'[/tex]

As you can see, you now have a shifted origin of the harmonic oscillator, and a shifted energy.

I already brought you more than halfway there, so good luck with the rest of the steps ;)

You are so powerful. I have been doing on this problem since this morning. Thank you very much.
 

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