A question concerning matrix norms

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between matrix norms induced by different vector norms, specifically questioning whether the equality of the induced matrix norms follows from the equality of their action on vectors.

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  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if ||A||_{a} = ||B||_{b} can be concluded from the condition ||Ax||_{a} = ||Bx||_{b} for any x in \mathbb{R}^n.
  • Another participant asserts that the definition of the matrix norm can be used to demonstrate the equality, although this claim lacks further elaboration.
  • A third participant provides the definition of the matrix norm induced by a vector norm, noting a concern about the differing values of ||x||_{a} and ||x||_{b} in the supremum calculation.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on whether the discussion pertains to operator norms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus; there are differing views on whether the equality of matrix norms can be established from the given condition, and concerns remain regarding the implications of differing vector norms.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the approach, particularly regarding the treatment of the denominator in the supremum and the implications of using different vector norms.

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I wonder given [tex]||Ax||_{a} = ||Bx||_{b}[/tex] for any [tex]x \in \mathbb{R}^n[/tex], is it true that [tex]||A||_{a} = ||B||_{b}[/tex], where [tex]||.||_{a}, ||.||_{b}[/tex] are two vector norms and the matrix norms are induced by the corresponding vector norms?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Yes. Just write down the definition of ||A||_a and show that it's equal to ||B||_b.
 
The matrix norm induced by a vector norm [tex]||.||_a[/tex] is defined by
[tex]||A||_a = \sup_{x \neq 0} \frac{||Ax||_a}{||x||_a}[/tex]. In showing the equality of matrix norms under the condition I've posted last time, I don't know how to deal with the denominator appeared in the denominator inside the supremum as [tex]||x||_a[/tex] and [tex]||x||_b[/tex] may be of different values.
 
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Are you referring to operator norms here?
 

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