A quick question regarding undergraduate research

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around preparing a CV for undergraduate research opportunities, specifically in the context of a student seeking advice on how to present their skills and experiences to a professor in materials science. The conversation includes suggestions on content to include in the CV, as well as general advice for first-time research applicants.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest including major and year of study on the CV.
  • It is proposed to list relevant classes taken, particularly in physics, electrical engineering, mathematics, and computer programming, with optional inclusion of grades.
  • Participants recommend indicating any additional relevant knowledge or skills not covered by coursework, such as programming languages or technical abilities.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of learning about the STM system and suggests that even maintenance tasks can provide valuable experience.
  • Another participant advises keeping a master CV file updated for future opportunities.
  • Some contributors highlight the significance of GPA as a metric of work ethic and capability, especially early in an academic career.
  • There is a mention of the value of prior research experience and related skills, such as scientific writing and laboratory focus, in making a candidate appealing for research positions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of presenting relevant coursework and skills in the CV. However, there is no consensus on specific strategies or the weight of different elements, such as GPA or prior research experience, in the context of applying for research opportunities.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the participants' varying levels of experience and the specific requirements of the professor, which may not be fully articulated. The discussion does not resolve how much weight should be given to different components of the CV.

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Hi there, so my friend and I recently asked our professor to allow us to do research with her, whatever that entails. She requested that we submit a CV and a short e-mail to her.

This is my first time doing this sort of thing so I'm completely clueless in regards to what a professor might find attractive/necessary to see on a CV. I was just wondering if I perhaps I could receive some advice from people who are experienced with this sort of thing so that I don't waste this opportunity . Be it programming, MATLab, what have you.

Thanks in advance.

Some context:

  • We're both first years meaning we don't have very much to put on our resume, she's fully aware of that(or so I hope).
  • I'm doing a double degree in EE and Physics
  • I know how to program in C, currently learning python and MATLab.
  • Her research primarily pertains to materials science e.g Van der Waals heterostructures, graphene, low dimensional systems and STM
Thanks again, any kind of advice is much appreciated!
 
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She wants to know what you know and what you are able to do. So think of these when you write your CV.

1. Indicate your major, and your year of study;

2. List all relevant classes that you've taken. In this case, list all of the physics, EE, math, and computer programming classes that you've taken. If you wish, you may indicate what grade you got for those classes if the grades are good or will help to make you look good.

3. Indicate any other relevant knowledge that you might have that are not reflected in the classes that you took. So if you know extra programing language, can take apart a PC and reassemble it back into a working order, etc..etc., list those.

If I were you, I would jump in with both feet and try and learn as much as you can about the STM system. So this is a very valuable opportunity to not only learn how to use a very useful device, but also to understand the technique and skills that come with using such a device. Even if all you get to do is to simply maintain the system rather than doing actual research work, I strongly recommend you take that if it is offered to you.

If the STM device can do both imaging and spectroscopy, and if it can also be fitted to be an AFM, then you will have hit the jackpot.

Zz.
 
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You should be able to find online a CV template as well as examples for undergraduates who don't have a lot of experience. If not, most universities have some kind of career and placement services office that can help you out with this kind of thing.

You might want to include details of your coding skills. What kinds of programs have you written in C, for example?

For jobs like this, it can also help to outline the relevant coursework that you've done that's likely to pertain to the position, and if you have some room, you can also put down courses that you'll be taking in the near future. This will help the professor to know what level of knowledge and skill you have and therefore what's reasonable to expect in terms of output.

And for what it's worth, long term, it's a good idea to keep a master CV file that's up to date. You never know when a opportunity might come up that you need to pounce on and when it does, the last thing you want to be doing is fiddling with the details of your CV (unless you're just trying to get it into the right format).

EDIT: Sorry if I'm duplicating anything said above - it looks like ZapperZ beat me to the response.
 
ZapperZ said:
She wants to know what you know and what you are able to do. So think of these when you write your CV.

1. Indicate your major, and your year of study;

2. List all relevant classes that you've taken. In this case, list all of the physics, EE, math, and computer programming classes that you've taken. If you wish, you may indicate what grade you got for those classes if the grades are good or will help to make you look good.

3. Indicate any other relevant knowledge that you might have that are not reflected in the classes that you took. So if you know extra programing language, can take apart a PC and reassemble it back into a working order, etc..etc., list those.

If I were you, I would jump in with both feet and try and learn as much as you can about the STM system. So this is a very valuable opportunity to not only learn how to use a very useful device, but also to understand the technique and skills that come with using such a device. Even if all you get to do is to simply maintain the system rather than doing actual research work, I strongly recommend you take that if it is offered to you.

If the STM device can do both imaging and spectroscopy, and if it can also be fitted to be an AFM, then you will have hit the jackpot.

Zz.
Thanks! This was incredibly helpful. I do think that it probably can double as an AFM as from what I've heard it's a high-grade STM. The deed is done, fingers crossed.
 
Choppy said:
EDIT: Sorry if I'm duplicating anything said above - it looks like ZapperZ beat me to the response.

Not at all! Your comment was certainly helpful in it's own way. Thank you very much !
 
Lots of great suggestions above. I know the immediate need is applying for a specific opportunity so there is likely not time to tackle new tasks to have new accomplishments to add to your CV. But writing down your existing accomplishments, skills, and experience is always a good time to assess how you can gain more accomplishments, skills, and experience to gradually strengthen your CV for future applications.

Some recommendations:
1. GPA matters, especially early in your career. Many employers are not just looking for what you have done and the skills you have, they want an indication of your work ethic and how well you do things. GPA is one of the few available quantitative metrics.
2. Programming. The question most faculty have regarding undergraduates is whether the net contributions of the undergrad will counter balance the time and effort to train them and get them up the learning curve of productivity. If you can quickly come up to speed and solve various programming problems for them without lots of hand holding, they will be much more confident that you will save more labor than you take in their research group.
3. Prior research. Students we've mentored are appealing for these positions due to prior research and building of research related skills. Science projects for ISEF-affiliated fairs, course projects, etc. helped build extensive research skills - background literature searches, scientific writing, spreadsheet skills, figure preparation, high levels of laboratory focus and care, instrumentation, etc.
 

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