A rather interesting type of coupled oscillator.

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The discussion focuses on solving the equations of motion for a coupled oscillator system described by a specific Lagrangian. The equations of motion are given as \(\ddot{x}=\frac{2k}{m} \left(\frac{x_0}{\sqrt{x^2+(r\theta)^2}} -1 \right)x\) and \(\ddot{\theta}=\frac{2k}{m} \left(\frac{x_0}{\sqrt{x^2+(r\theta)^2}} -1 \right)\theta\). Initial attempts to simplify the equations using the assumption \(r\theta << x\) were unsuccessful. Suggestions included using the substitution \(x'' = v \frac{dv}{dx}\) for integration, highlighting the complexity of integrating with respect to \(\theta\).

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Homework Statement


The problem can be found here. http://wopho.org/dl.php?id=17&dirfile=selection-problem/helical_rope.pdf" I am attempting to solve part 3.

Homework Equations


The Lagrangian of the system is: [tex]L= \frac{m\dot{x}^2}{2}+\frac{mr^2\dot{\theta}^2}{2}-k \left( x^2+(r\theta)^2-2x_0\sqrt{x^2+(r\theta)^2} \right)[/tex]
Also,the equations of motion are:
[tex]\ddot{x}=\frac{2k}{m} \left(\frac{x_0}{\sqrt{x^2+(r\theta)^2}} -1 \right)x[/tex]
[tex]\ddot{\theta}=\frac{2k}{m} \left(\frac{x_0}{\sqrt{x^2+(r\theta)^2}} -1 \right) \theta[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I need to solve the equations of motion for [tex]x(t)[/tex] and [tex]\theta (t)[/tex]. First I tried assuming [tex]r \theta << x[/tex] but it leads to equations of motion of the form

[tex] \ddot{x}=\frac{2k}{m} \left(\frac{x_0}{x+\frac{(r \theta)^2}{2x}} -1 \right)x[/tex]
which is not particulaly useful. Pointing out that [tex]\frac{\ddot{x}}{x} = \frac{\ddot{\theta}}{\theta}[/tex] I tried assuming solutions of the form [tex]x= Ae^{(iwt + \phi)}[/tex] and [tex]\theta= Be^{(iwt + \phi)}[/tex] but I was again unsuccessful. I was stuck at this point.
Thank you.
 
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hi dHannibal! :smile:

try putting x'' = v dv/dx and integrating :wink:
 
Hi tinytim,
but how do i get rid of [tex]\theta[/tex]'s in the square root when integrating?
 

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