A rock is thrown with height, direction, and inital velocity provided

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The problem involves a rock thrown from a cliff at an angle below the horizontal with a specified initial velocity. The questions focus on determining the total time in flight, horizontal range, and maximum height reached by the rock, which relates to the subject area of projectile motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations used for solving projectile motion problems and question the applicability of different kinematic equations. There is an exploration of how to decompose initial velocity into its x and y components and when to use these components in calculations.

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Some participants have shared their attempts at solving the problem and expressed confusion regarding the process and the equations used. Others have provided insights into the relationship between the equations from the textbook and those used by the instructor. The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on specific steps and concepts.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the use of certain kinematic equations and the need to split initial velocity into components. Participants are also navigating the implications of their calculations and the results they are obtaining.

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Homework Statement



A rock is thrown off a 100 m cliff at an angle of 38 degrees below horizontal with an initial velocity of 20.0 m/s.
a) What is the total time in flight?
b) What is the horizontal range?
c) What is the max height reached by the rock?


Homework Equations



x = x_0 + v_x t
y = y_0 + v_0y t - 1/2 g t^2


The Attempt at a Solution



The answers are
a) t = 3.43 s
b) R= 54.2 m
c) 100m, trick question.


I don't get how the answers are made (I struggle with motion in two directions), but I've had them provided to me in class. I'm confused as to the process to get the answers. Above are the equations the instructor used in class, but I'm also confused as to why he used them. My book states only three kinematic equations, and those are:
v_f = v_0 + a t
Δx = v_0 t + 1/2 a t^2
v_f^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a Δx
and their vertical identicals.

Is it possible to get the answers using those three kinematic equations instead of the ones he used? Or can someone talk me through WHEN those two equations he used should be used? Like are they for projectile motion in two directions only or something?

Thanks in advance!
 
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mcKempt said:
My book states only three kinematic equations, and those are:
v_f = v_0 + a t
Δx = v_0 t + 1/2 a t^2
v_f^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a Δx
and their vertical identicals.

Is it possible to get the answers using those three kinematic equations instead of the ones he used?
The second equation from your book (highlighted) can be used to get both of the equations used by your instructor. (In one case the acceleration will be zero.)
 
Ahhhh, I see now. I always thought the first equation was given by v_0 = {x_f - x_0}over{t}.

So when I do it:
I plug in my values into Δx = v_0 t + 1/2 a t^2, I get time to equal either 69.70 or -167.27 after using the quadratic equation. This is not right.
 
Am I suppose to split the initial velocity into x and y components?
 
I found it, had to split the initial velocity and use the horizontal component into my initial velocity when I did the quadratic.

How am I suppose to know when to use the x or the y components when I solve a problem like this?

Also, since I found time (rather simple, too) how do I solve part B?
 
BTW - when I use the range equation for part B, I get 39.6 m.
 
NVM, found it. Had to plug the x-component of velocity into the first equation my instructor gave with the time we found.

Thanks, this can be closed.
 

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