A rubber ball is plugging a whole in bottom of tank. When will it fail

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The problem involves a rubber ball used to plug a hole in the base of a tank, with the objective of determining the depth at which the ball will fail and float out of the hole. The context includes concepts of buoyancy, density, and forces acting on the ball as the tank empties.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the ball, including upward buoyant force and downward water pressure. There is a focus on understanding how to calculate the volume of a partial sphere and the implications of the ball's density on its effectiveness as a plug.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the forces involved and how to approach the problem mathematically. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the upward and downward forces, with one participant expressing appreciation for guidance received. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, particularly regarding the effects of pressure and buoyancy.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of calculating the volume of a partial sphere and the implications of the ball's low density, which raises questions about its ability to function effectively as a plug. The discussion reflects a mix of theoretical considerations and practical calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 3 cm radius rubber ball weighing 5 g is used to plug a 4cm hole in the base of a tank. The tank is in use and is gradually emptying. At approximately what depth will the plug fail by floating up and out of the hole?


Homework Equations


Density



The Attempt at a Solution


Ok so I don't have a numbers and all attempt at a solution :(
But I do have a logical thought process as to how the solution should be solved, but I'm stumped on finding the volume of a partial sphere when given radius and the radius of the base circle - I know it is enough information I just cannot work out how to calculate it.

The way I see it the upward force acting on the sphere will be proportional to the mass of the water displaced, whilst the downward force acting on the sphere will be proportional to the whole sphere so theoretically the plug should fail when the water level is at the height corresponding to the radius of the base circle on the opposite side. I am not sure about this though, as according to the figures given the density of the sphere is only 44 kg/m3 so all my common sense is telling me the plug wouldn't even work :confused:

Am I taking the right approach?
 
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DylanW said:

Homework Statement


A 3 cm radius rubber ball weighing 5 g is used to plug a 4cm hole in the base of a tank. The tank is in use and is gradually emptying. At approximately what depth will the plug fail by floating up and out of the hole?

Homework Equations


Density

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok so I don't have a numbers and all attempt at a solution :(
But I do have a logical thought process as to how the solution should be solved, but I'm stumped on finding the volume of a partial sphere when given radius and the radius of the base circle - I know it is enough information I just cannot work out how to calculate it.

The way I see it the upward force acting on the sphere will be proportional to the mass of the water displaced, whilst the downward force acting on the sphere will be proportional to the whole sphere so theoretically the plug should fail when the water level is at the height corresponding to the radius of the base circle on the opposite side. I am not sure about this though, as according to the figures given the density of the sphere is only 44 kg/m3 so all my common sense is telling me the plug wouldn't even work :confused:

Am I taking the right approach?
If the ball was just submerged, you would be right because the water at any depth would provide almost equal pressure all around (slightly more on the bottom than top - the difference being the buoyant force/cross-secitonal area of the ball), so there would always be a net buoyant force. But here the ball is not subject to water pressure all around because there is only atmospheric pressure on the part that is covering the hole. You have to find the downward water force on the ball (the downward water pressure over the 4 cm diameter hole x area) as a function of depth and then compare that to the upward buoyant force.

AM
 
Thanks very much for the information AM :) I really appreciate it.
I'm just about to go to sleep after I watch the West Ham game, but I'll be working on this first thing tomorrow so I will report back my calculations - I am stoked that I don't need to do that partial sphere calculation as my head may have exploded, and how would I ever complete my assignment then!

But seriously thanks, a nudge in the right direction makes the world of difference.

DylanW
 
Okay so for this one I've done F(UP)=1000.9.8.0.000113 = 1.1N
F(DOWN)=pghA + mg = 1000.9.8.h.(0.02^2).Pi+0.005.9.8 = 12.315h + 0.049 N
When F(Down)=F(Up) plug will fail
h = (1.1-0.049)/12.315 = 8.5 cm.

Feedback please?
 

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