A Single String Conjecture ? -Feynman revisited

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a "Single String Conjecture," inspired by Feynman's "Single Electron Conjecture." Participants explore the implications of Superstring Theory and propose that the universe might be represented as a single vibrating superstring. The conversation includes references to Schiller's "strand model" and its relation to these ideas, examining whether it aligns with or diverges from Superstring Theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if Superstring Theory is true, the universe could be viewed as one vibrating superstring moving back and forth in time.
  • Others reference Schiller's "strand model," which describes nature as made of a single strand with knots representing particles, but question its compatibility with Superstring Theory.
  • A participant expresses appreciation for the exploration of Schiller's model, indicating a personal connection to the conjecture.
  • Some participants challenge the notion that Schiller's model aligns with the idea of a single superstring, noting that it may not be based on Superstring Theory.
  • There is a suggestion that all particles could be seen as parts of one giant string, with implications of faster-than-light motion related to time travel.
  • Concerns are raised about whether Schiller's model could be considered "crackpottery," with differing opinions on the validity of new theories.
  • Another participant clarifies that Schiller's model might involve multiple strands rather than a single strand, with strands being infinite in length and connected at cosmic horizons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the interpretations of Schiller's model and its relation to Superstring Theory. There is no consensus on whether the conjectures presented are valid or if they represent speculative ideas.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in understanding Schiller's model, particularly regarding its assumptions and definitions. The discussion reflects ongoing uncertainty about the implications of these theories and their experimental validation.

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a "Single String Conjecture"? -Feynman revisited

Do we all remember Feynman's "Single Electron Conjecture" that states, basically, that a single electron moving back and forth in time could "fill in the gaps" on every electron ring around every atom in the universe? Well, assuming Superstring Theory is true and every particle is really a vibrating superstring (and, as such, all particles are generically the same), can't we "conjecture" that the entire universe is really one vibrating superstring moving back and forth in time?
(I know this is probably a bit of a stretch, but, hopefully, Superstrings may turn out to be more like rubberbands than previously imagined.)
 
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rai linga said:
Do we all remember Feynman's "Single Electron Conjecture" that states, basically, that a single electron moving back and forth in time could "fill in the gaps" on every electron ring around every atom in the universe? Well, assuming Superstring Theory is true and every particle is really a vibrating superstring (and, as such, all particles are generically the same), can't we "conjecture" that the entire universe is really one vibrating superstring moving back and forth in time?
(I know this is probably a bit of a stretch, but, hopefully, Superstrings may turn out to be more like rubberbands than previously imagined.)

Schiller's "strand model" does precisely that: it described all of nature as made of a single strand (in 3 dimensions though, not 11), and the various knots/tangles are the particles. See http://www.motionmountain.net/research and the other threads in this forum.
 
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Thank you so very much for informing me about Shiller's model. Wow! To think someone took this pipedream (literally!) of mine seriously makes me, a mere layman, feel pretty good. I'll check out the the site and do my best to puzzle out what he's saying.
 


heinz said:
Schiller's "strand model" does precisely that: it described all of nature as made of a single strand (in 3 dimensions though, not 11), and the various knots/tangles are the particles. See http://www.motionmountain.net/research and the other threads in this forum.

Is this strand model crackpottery?
 
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Hmm--"crachpottery". Things are so busy now I haven't had time to read the Schiller article---but, now that you say this, Schiller's model certainly doesn't sound like something based on Superstring Theory, does it? I mean, superstrings are Planck length ---so there couldn't be one long superstring creating the entire universe. The key idea in connecting to Feynman's conjecture, of course, is the movement of an entity (electron or, as here considered, string) "back and forth in time". So Shiller's model doesn't seem to embody the idea I'm suggesting at all ----but I still appreciate people's input and will take a look at what he's saying fairly soon.
 


rai linga said:
Do we all remember Feynman's "Single Electron Conjecture" that states, basically, that a single electron moving back and forth in time could "fill in the gaps" on every electron ring around every atom in the universe? Well, assuming Superstring Theory is true and every particle is really a vibrating superstring (and, as such, all particles are generically the same), can't we "conjecture" that the entire universe is really one vibrating superstring moving back and forth in time?
(I know this is probably a bit of a stretch, but, hopefully, Superstrings may turn out to be more like rubberbands than previously imagined.)
I think it is possible. More precisely, I think it is possible that all particles are one giant string split in many small parts. The process of splitting involves motions faster than light, which is related to motion backwards in time. For more details see
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/hep-th/0702060
especially Fig. 1.
 


Hmm, isn't Nikolic = Demystifier?
 


Is this strand model crackpottery?
All new theories are! Experimentation will determine the outcome.

Heinz likely knows a lot more about the strand model than I, but reading the strand thread I sure did not think Schiller was proposing a single strand, but rather multiple strands of infinite length to horizons...he even says strands are separated by Planck Lengths...
 


Naty1 said:
All new theories are! Experimentation will determine the outcome.

Heinz likely knows a lot more about the strand model than I, but reading the strand thread I sure did not think Schiller was proposing a single strand, but rather multiple strands of infinite length to horizons...he even says strands are separated by Planck Lengths...

Schiller says that all strands are "infinite" in the sense that they reach the "border of space". In practice, the border is the cosmic horizon. Schiller also argues that at the horizon, all strands are connected. From a local viewpoint, strands are thus "infinite for all practical purposes"; from a global viewpoint, they are all "one and the same".
 
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MTd2 said:
Hmm, isn't Nikolic = Demystifier?
Of course. :wink:
 

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