A Slider-Crank & Angular Velocities/Acceleration Problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a slider-crank problem involving angular velocities and accelerations. The user has correctly identified the relative positions of points O, A, and B but is struggling to progress with the calculations. They have derived an acceleration equation but are unsure how to find the required values. A suggestion is made to treat angles and distances as variables for differentiation to establish relationships between velocities and angular velocities. The conversation highlights a discrepancy in the provided answers, particularly regarding the conditions for the rotation rate of AB to be zero.
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Homework Statement


I have posted the problem in an attachment.


Homework Equations


Aa = Ab + Aab (acceleration at a is equal to the the acceleration of b plus the acceleration of A with respect to B)
Aa = ωob x [ωob x Rob] + [αab x Rab]
Va = Vb + Vab



The Attempt at a Solution


First, I got the relative positions (Rob and Rab) of O with respect to B (-0.1 j) and A with respect to B (-0.229i - 0.1j) I feel pretty good about this being correct

Now, when I plug into the 2nd equation I have in the "relevant equations" part and do a lot of cross products, I get the following:
Aa = -1000j - 0.229αab j + 0.1αab i

Now I am unsure how to proceed from here. I still have not found any of the three items that I'm asked to find and kind of stuck on where to go next. Any help is much appreciated.
 

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As with your https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=716711, finding the instantaneous geometry is of limited value. You need equations in which angles and the distance AO are treated as variables. Then you can differentiate to find the relationships between velocities and angular velocities etc. and as I wrote on that thread, another approach is to consider components of velocities along the rods. The two ends of a rod must have the same velocitiy in that direction.
Btw, I believe the given answers in this question are wrong. To get the rotation rate of AB to be zero I need angle ABO to be a right angle, not angle AOB.
 
haruspex said:
Btw, I believe the given answers in this question are wrong. To get the rotation rate of AB to be zero I need angle ABO to be a right angle, not angle AOB.
I did this question and I found the answers to all three of them. Instantaneous rotation rate of AB comes to be zero both conceptually and quantitatively.

My other two answers differed by a factor of 100 (lower), but that could be my mistake!
 
NihalSh said:
I did this question and I found the answers to all three of them. Instantaneous rotation rate of AB comes to be zero both conceptually and quantitatively.

My other two answers differed by a factor of 100 (lower), but that could be my mistake!

Yes, I realized later I was wrong about that, but only just got a chance to get back online.
 
haruspex said:
Yes, I realized later I was wrong about that, but only just got a chance to get back online.

no problem!:wink:
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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