Linear and angular momentum problem: Ball hitting a rod

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a ball colliding with a pivoting rod, focusing on the conservation of linear and angular momentum. Participants express confusion about how to combine linear and angular momentum equations, especially when the rod is free to both rotate and translate. It is clarified that both types of momentum can be treated separately, and equations for each can be combined mathematically. The importance of specifying the point of reference for angular momentum calculations is emphasized, as it affects the results. Ultimately, the conversation leads to the realization that specific relationships between the masses and the collision dynamics are crucial for solving the problem accurately.
  • #61
barryj said:
I have not seen a problem of this type in any of my physics books. All of the problems I see tend to have the rod fixed to a pivot point and this makes the problem much easier. Can this problem even be solved at all?
Yes. Once you have settled on which variant you are interested in, it can be solved.

I think that three variants are currently on the table:

1. Ball ends at rest. Rod is not anchored. Use conservation of linear and angular momentum to determine final linear velocity and angular velocity of rod.

2. Elastic collision. Rod is not anchored. Use conservation of linear and angular momentum and of kinetic energy to determine final linear velocity and angular velocity of rod and final velocity of ball.

3. Ball ends at rest and elastic collision. Rod is not anchored. Use conservation of linear and angular momentum and of kinetic energy to determine final linear velocity and angular velocity of rod and one additional parameter -- such as the point of impact.
 
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  • #62
Lets start with case #1 above. Given my initial parameters, i.e. Mass of ball = 0.1 kg, mass of rod = 1 Kg,velocity of ball = 10 m/sec, impact 0.4 m from rod center, can we assume the ball will be at rest after the collision. I don't think so.

#2 and #3 might be possible. Which one is the easiest to solve? Let's do that one?
 
  • #63
I solved #3 with d = 0.866
 

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