Linear and angular momentum problem: Ball hitting a rod

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the conservation of linear and angular momentum in a scenario where a ball of mass mb and velocity vb collides with a rod of length L that pivots about its center. Participants clarify that both linear and angular momentum are conserved, and they can be expressed through separate equations. The initial angular momentum must be calculated relative to a chosen pivot point, and the relationship between the masses and collision dynamics is crucial for determining the final states of the system.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of linear momentum and angular momentum
  • Familiarity with moment of inertia calculations, specifically I = 1/12 (mL^2)
  • Knowledge of elastic collisions and conservation laws
  • Ability to apply kinetic energy equations in collision scenarios
NEXT STEPS
  • Study conservation of momentum in collisions to understand the interaction between linear and angular momentum
  • Learn about moment of inertia for different shapes to apply in various pivot scenarios
  • Explore elastic and inelastic collision equations to differentiate outcomes based on collision types
  • Investigate kinetic energy conservation in systems involving both translational and rotational motion
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This discussion is beneficial for physics students, educators, and anyone studying mechanics, particularly those interested in collision dynamics and the interplay between linear and angular momentum.

  • #61
barryj said:
I have not seen a problem of this type in any of my physics books. All of the problems I see tend to have the rod fixed to a pivot point and this makes the problem much easier. Can this problem even be solved at all?
Yes. Once you have settled on which variant you are interested in, it can be solved.

I think that three variants are currently on the table:

1. Ball ends at rest. Rod is not anchored. Use conservation of linear and angular momentum to determine final linear velocity and angular velocity of rod.

2. Elastic collision. Rod is not anchored. Use conservation of linear and angular momentum and of kinetic energy to determine final linear velocity and angular velocity of rod and final velocity of ball.

3. Ball ends at rest and elastic collision. Rod is not anchored. Use conservation of linear and angular momentum and of kinetic energy to determine final linear velocity and angular velocity of rod and one additional parameter -- such as the point of impact.
 
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  • #62
Lets start with case #1 above. Given my initial parameters, i.e. Mass of ball = 0.1 kg, mass of rod = 1 Kg,velocity of ball = 10 m/sec, impact 0.4 m from rod center, can we assume the ball will be at rest after the collision. I don't think so.

#2 and #3 might be possible. Which one is the easiest to solve? Let's do that one?
 
  • #63
I solved #3 with d = 0.866
 

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