A sliding puck analyzed from an inertial reference frame

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the motion of a sliding puck from an inertial reference frame, specifically addressing the application of the work-kinetic energy theorem. The participant expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the effects of different frames of reference on kinetic energy calculations. Key insights include the importance of drawing a free-body diagram at a general position θ and treating the moving frame as stationary to simplify calculations. The discussion emphasizes finding the tension in the system to determine the puck's velocity.

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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know how to do this problem.

First of all how do I approach it? Should I do a free-body diagram? Should it be done at position 1? How do I account for the different frame of reference? How is this going to affect the equations for kinetic energy?

I would like to know if I'm thinking of this right:

I should find the tension, somehow, so that I may find the work done by this force. Knowing the work, I can use the work-kinetic energy theorem to find velocity and if this plan is right, then I'll probably take it from there and come back if I get stuck again. However, this business with a different reference frame is, unknown to me, I don't know how it affects things. I was ready to say that the velocity is zero at position 1, since to me it seems like it would be zero relevant to an object moving at a constant velocity, but now I need to work something out to show that it's not.

So I guess I need help with part a first.
 
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Hi Raziel2701! :smile:

(This is on horizontal ice, isn't it … so that we can ignore friction and gravity?)
Raziel2701 said:
Should I do a free-body diagram? Should it be done at position 1?

Well, there's only one force on the puck, so it won't be much of a diagram, but yes you can draw it if you like. :wink:

If you do, you should draw it at a general position θ.
How do I account for the different frame of reference?

You don't do anything special.

You just pretend that the moving frame of reference is actually stationary …

in other words: you pretend that the bead is fixed, and the puck is moving in a (horizontal) circle round the bead …

so how will the speed V of the puck (you can't use "v", that's already in use for the bead :wink:) depend on θ?

Once you've found V, find T, and rest should be easy. :smile:
 

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