A Vector Calculus Identity for Characteristic Projections in PDEs

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The discussion centers on a vector calculus identity related to characteristic projections in partial differential equations (PDEs). It explains the relationship between the projection of a vector v onto the gradient of a scalar field u and the magnitude of v multiplied by the rate of change of u along an arc length l in the direction of v. The identity is derived from considering the rate of change of u as a particle moves along a curve, leading to a formulation that resembles the original identity. The conversation also touches on the parameterization of arc length and its relevance to the derivation of the PDE form. Understanding this relationship is essential for applying the identity in the context of first-order linear PDEs.
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In the notes it says that

\text{v}\cdot \nabla \text{u} = |\text{v}|\frac{du}{dl}

\text{v} = (a(x,y), b(x,y))

l is the arclength in the v-direction.

Why is this?

The LHS is the projection of v onto the gradient of u, the other thing is the magnitude of v, multiplied by the du/dl.
 
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Gregg said:
In the notes it says that

\text{v}\cdot \nabla \text{u} = |\text{v}|\frac{du}{dl}

\text{v} = (a(x,y), b(x,y))

l is the arclength in the v-direction.

Why is this?

The LHS is the projection of v onto the gradient of u, the other thing is the magnitude of v, multiplied by the du/dl.

l is the arclength of what in the v direction? And you haven't told us what u is. Nor what v represents. What we have here is an example of "guess the question". Since I have a bit of time on my hands, I will expound a bit about a question I think might be relevant.

Let ##u(x,y)## be a scalar field, perhaps the temperature at ##(x,y)##. Let a curve ##C## be given by ##\vec R(t) = \langle x(t), y(t)\rangle## represent the location of a moving particle. What if we want the rate of change of ##u## as the particle moves along ##C##? Well we have$$
\frac{du}{ds}=\frac{du}{dt}\frac{dt}{ds}=
(u_x\frac {dx}{dt}+ u_y\frac{dy}{dt})\frac{dt}{ds}$$Multiply both sides by$$
\frac{ds}{dt}=\frac 1 {\frac{dt}{ds}}$$to get$$
\frac{du}{ds}\frac{ds}{dt}=u_x\frac {dx}{dt}+ u_y\frac{dy}{dt}=
\nabla u\cdot \frac {d\vec R}{dt}= \nabla u\cdot \vec V$$

where ##\vec V## is the velocity of the particle. Since ##v = \frac{ds}{dt}=|\vec V|## is its speed, this can be written$$
|\vec V|\frac{du}{ds}=\nabla u\cdot \vec V$$This looks a lot like your result, using ##s## instead of ##l## for arc length. There may be a more direct way of getting the result but, hey, I'm not even sure I worked the problem you were thinking about.
 
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It is the derivation for characteristic projections in PDEs. First order linear PDE with the form

## a(x,y) u_x + b(x,y) u_y + c(x,y) u = d(x,y) ##

##v \cdot \nabla u + c u = d \Rightarrow |v| \frac{du}{dl} + cu = d ##

So I have looked at what you wrote, you have parameterised it so that s is the position or arc length along some curve C?
 
Gregg said:
It is the derivation for characteristic projections in PDEs. First order linear PDE with the form

## a(x,y) u_x + b(x,y) u_y + c(x,y) u = d(x,y) ##

##v \cdot \nabla u + c u = d \Rightarrow |v| \frac{du}{dl} + cu = d ##

So I have looked at what you wrote, you have parameterised it so that s is the position or arc length along some curve C?

Yes. Now, I am not a PDE expert so I'm not going to comment directly on your PDE question. I do suspect, though, that if you look at and understand what I have done, it will likely apply to your context. Good luck with it.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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