A vector F=Fz, where z is unit vector, expressed in sphereical coord.

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The problem involves expressing a vector field that is parallel to the z-axis in spherical coordinates. The original poster states that the vector is given in Cartesian coordinates as \(\vec{F} = F\hat{z}\), where \(\hat{z}\) is the unit vector in the z direction. The task is to convert this representation into spherical coordinates.

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  • The original poster attempts to convert the unit vector \(\hat{z}\) into spherical coordinates and expresses uncertainty about the conversion process. Some participants provide the conversion formula and discuss the implications of the coordinate system.

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Participants have provided some guidance on the conversion of unit vectors and referenced resources for further understanding. There is ongoing discussion about the definitions and conventions of spherical coordinates, with some participants questioning the consistency of terminology.

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There is mention of varying definitions for the angles in spherical coordinates, which may lead to confusion. The original poster's background in physics is noted, which may influence their understanding of the topic.

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Homework Statement



So the full problem reads: A vector F has the same magnitude and direction at all points in space. Choose the z-axis parallel to F. Then , in Cartesian coordinates, \vec{F}=F\hat{z}, where \hat{z} is the unit vector in the z direction. Express \vec{F} in spherical coordinates.

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I don't know?

The Attempt at a Solution



Well pretty much it wants me to express this vector field that is parallel with the z-axis, which really means converting \hat{z} to spherical coordinates.

I found the answer to be \hat{z} = cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi} through an online resource I really didn't understand. No images, nothing. Can someone please explain how you can convert the unit vectors to spherical?

And would the answer be \vec{F}=F\hat{z} = F(cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi})

thanks!
 
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renegade05 said:

Homework Statement



So the full problem reads: A vector F has the same magnitude and direction at all points in space. Choose the z-axis parallel to F. Then , in Cartesian coordinates, \vec{F}=F\hat{z}, where \hat{z} is the unit vector in the z direction. Express \vec{F} in spherical coordinates.

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I don't know?

The Attempt at a Solution



Well pretty much it wants me to express this vector field that is parallel with the z-axis, which really means converting \hat{z} to spherical coordinates.

I found the answer to be \hat{z} = cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi} through an online resource I really didn't understand. No images, nothing. Can someone please explain how you can convert the unit vectors to spherical?

And would the answer be \vec{F}=F\hat{z} = F(cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi})

thanks!

Yes, you are done! resolving the Cartesian unite vector z into its spherical polar coordinates yields
\hat{z} = cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi}

you just need to substitute the above equation into the relation \vec{F}=F\hat{z}.
 
So: \vec{F}=F\hat{z} = F(cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi}) is the answer?

But my question was if someone can explain why \hat{z}= cos(\phi)\hat{r}-sin(\phi)\hat{\phi}
 
OK. but what's your background in math? Are you a physics student or ? I can refer you to the book Arfken where you'll find how to change the Cartesian coordinates into spherical polar ones.
 
PaulDirac said:
OK. but what's your background in math? Are you a physics student or ? I can refer you to the book Arfken where you'll find how to change the Cartesian coordinates into spherical polar ones.

physics student
 
See the picture. The unit vectors of the polar coordinates change with the position. At point P, ##\vec e_r## or ##\hat r## is the unit vector along the radial vector pointing to P from the origin. ##\vec e_Φ## or ##\hat Φ## is the unit vector perpendicular to ##\hat r## in the plane of the z axis and OP.

If you have a vector ##\vec F## at P, its projection onto the direction of the unit vectors are its components in polar coordinates.

ehild
 

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Yes, but just to harmonize this with future exploits, be aware that naming of spherical coordinates is almost always
##\theta## polar angle : ##\arccos (\hat z \cdot \hat r)##
##\phi## azimuthal angle : ##\arccos (\hat x \cdot \hat r)##
i.e. just the other way around. Better get used to that.
 
BvU said:
Yes, but just to harmonize this with future exploits, be aware that naming of spherical coordinates is almost always
##\theta## polar angle : ##\arccos (\hat z \cdot \hat r)##
##\phi## azimuthal angle : ##\arccos (\hat x \cdot \hat r)##
i.e. just the other way around. Better get used to that.

I would not say "almost always".

On the first page of Google results, Wiki and Hyperphysics and http://www.nyu.edu/classes/tuckerman/adv.chem/lectures/math_prelims/node12.html were pro, but the following were contra.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SphericalCoordinates.html

http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/SphericalCoords.aspx

http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/docs/reference/CRC-formulas/node42.html

The OP should us those notations as he was taught.

ehild
 
The OP should us those notations as he was taught
Fully agree. What triggered me is the
I found the answer to be dadada ... through an online resource I really didn't understand
 

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