A Youtube video about physics careers (and other related matters)

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The discussion revolves around a YouTube video by a user named "physicswoman," which addresses career opportunities for physics graduates. Participants explore the implications of the video's claims, the realities of job prospects for physics majors, and the perceived ease of transitioning to other fields of study or employment.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the assertion that a physics degree prepares graduates for a broad range of fields, suggesting instead that it may lead to limited job options.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the framing of career opportunities in the video, with some arguing that it oversimplifies the challenges faced by physics graduates in the job market.
  • Several participants note that transitioning to fields like engineering or biology may require additional coursework beyond a physics degree, contradicting the video's implications.
  • Some participants share anecdotal experiences of physics graduates who have struggled to find relevant employment, indicating a trend towards teaching as a fallback option.
  • There is a discussion about the differences in job prospects based on the prestige of the educational institution attended, with some suggesting that graduates from top schools may have advantages not available to others.
  • Participants highlight the existence of fields with overlap to physics, such as biophysics or computational biology, but question whether the video adequately addresses these pathways.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach consensus, with multiple competing views on the value of a physics degree and the accuracy of the video's portrayal of career options. Disagreement exists regarding the ease of transitioning to other scientific disciplines and the overall job market for physics graduates.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the influence of geographic and economic factors on job availability for physics graduates, particularly in developing countries. There is also a recognition of the need for additional qualifications or experience to pursue certain career paths.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to current physics students, recent graduates, educators in the field, and those considering a physics degree or related career paths.

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Hi there. I came across this amusing Youtube video prepared by a young woman, ostensibly with a physics background (her handle is "physicswoman"), about career fields for physics majors. I was curious about what the rest of you think.



If you check out her channel, you'll find more topics about physics and science in general:

http://www.youtube.com/user/physicswoman?feature=watch

BTW, I'm curious if "physicswoman" is actually a Physics Forums member.
 
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I think its hard to empirically separate "our degree prepares you for a broad range of fields" and "our degree prepares you for nothing, so our graduates bounce into whatever they can scramble into." I'm of the opinion that physics is a bit more of the latter than the former.

At the undergrad level, you have more time to retrain yourself (get a masters in some sort of engineering, and you can probably easily transition to an engineering field).
 
ParticleGrl said:
I think its hard to empirically separate "our degree prepares you for a broad range of fields" and "our degree prepares you for nothing, so our graduates bounce into whatever they can scramble into." I'm of the opinion that physics is a bit more of the latter than the former.

I know around 3-4 physics teachers (they've been working for less than a decade now) who became teachers because that was the only job they could find. One of them teaches at his old high school. One of them said that he was turned down for some jobs he could have gotten after high school or with minimal training ("clerk" somewhere) on the basis of being overqualified. Then again, I'm from a developing country, and there isn't much going on here. And there is a tendency to hire business grads to work in business, English/French/certain social science majors in journalism, CS grads for coding, etc...

I'm inclined to agree with you. What I also don't like about how she frames this is how easy she makes everything sound. If she is indeed a user here, I'm willing to bet she hasn't been reading much in this sub-section.

She is wrong about physics graduates being able to easily go to grad school in chemistry or biology. One would need more than the 1st year general chem or bio that seems to be required of science majors at many schools.

Apparently, in Germany, people with a master's (or "diplom") in math or physics can work in insurance and banking doing more "analysis" kind of work. But take that with a grain of salt, as I don't know the specific backgrounds of the people who posted this information. (I saw a post on Reddit about this in /r/Germany)
 
When she finally gets to what you can do with a physics degree her first suggestion is to go back and get a degree in engineering, bio or chem. lol, great advice... Then she says you can work in a lab doing one of many types of science or physics, I don't think that's true. Unless you go to grad school and do PhD research work. Her take home message is that you can do lots of different things with a physics degrees. Lots and lots... So what? I can do lots of things with no degree at all. You don't need a degree in anything to have lots of options available to you. You only need to be young, kinda smart and healthy. If that's all the degree does, leaves all doors open for you, then its worthless (with respect to a career). If it leaves you equally qualified for everything then it has really qualified you for nothing.
 
Shes a bit overoptimistic because in her position as a recent college grad that is what you should do. If you are looking for a job you shouldn't go into interviews with a positive mindset.

However you need to be more than a few years into the life of a college graduate to properly reflect on "what you can do as a physics major".
 
Mépris said:
She is wrong about physics graduates being able to easily go to grad school in chemistry or biology. One would need more than the 1st year general chem or bio that seems to be required of science majors at many schools.

I know math majors who went straight to an electrical engineering masters, physics major who went into nuclear engineering masters, chemistry doesn't seem like a big jump either especially since a lot of chemistry is applied physics (materials, etc); they would all require some extra prep but not a great deal.
 
jesse73 said:
Shes a bit overoptimistic because in her position as a recent college grad that is what you should do. If you are looking for a job you shouldn't go into interviews with a positive mindset.

However you need to be more than a few years into the life of a college graduate to properly reflect on "what you can do as a physics major".

Rather, a "recent MIT grad" or "current MIT student." When you graduate from MIT (or any other "top school" for that matter), and make use of the resources available to you there, it's hard to not get a job.

I have no gripes with any person who attends a top school. I am just saying that they may not necessarily be in a position where they can appreciate that not every college grad had access to the same resources they had. For e.g, 5-6k undergraduates students that was meticulously selected, or on-campus recruitment by, and connections to, big consulting, tech, and finance firms.
 
clope023 said:
I know math majors who went straight to an electrical engineering masters, physics major who went into nuclear engineering masters, chemistry doesn't seem like a big jump either especially since a lot of chemistry is applied physics (materials, etc); they would all require some extra prep but not a great deal.

She did not specify that one would be doing research on fields closely related to physics.

I understand that there are fields with significant overlap in physics, like biophysics, or fields which openly admit people who just have scientific backgrounds, like computational or systems biology.

But she does not talk about that. Whether that was her intention or not, she suggests that one can merrily hop onto an organic chemistry PhD. As if having a physics degree was akin to having studied the fundamentals of all that is science, thereby making transitions to separate scientific disciplines seamless.
 

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