I About nature of superposition of states

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In quantum mechanics, the spin of an electron exists in a superposition of states until it is measured, at which point it assumes a definite value, either up or down. This means that the electron does not have a real, predetermined spin until observation occurs, challenging classical intuitions about existence. The concept of superposition is crucial, as it allows for interference effects in experiments, such as those demonstrated by the Mach-Zehnder interferometer. While the electron's spin magnitude is definite, its direction remains uncertain until measurement, highlighting the probabilistic nature of quantum properties. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the complexities of quantum mechanics and the distinction between classical and quantum realities.
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I was re-reading the previous posts, but a question arose.
Some posts ago, I said:

HighPhy said:
When you observe the spin, this probability distribution collapses to a defined state, and then your measurement changes that probability distribution. Depending on the case, it can collapse it to a very simple one - probability 1 for a certain value and 0 for all others.

As answers, I obtained:

PeroK said:
Spin is a 3D vector quantity. In QM, only spin about one axis can be defined - spin about the other two axes remains undefined. If we measure about the z-axis, we get either ##\pm \frac \hbar 2## and the state collapses to z-spin-up or z-spin-down. Subsequent measurements of a free particle will always give the same outcome. But, measurements about the x or y-axis will give ##\pm \frac \hbar 2## with equal probability.

Moreover, if the particle is in a magnetic field, then the state will naturally evolve from the initial state or z-spin-up or z-spin-down. Look up Larmor Precession.
PeterDonis said:
For spin measurements, this will always be the case, since spin is a discrete observable.
What is the particular connection that allows these two responses to be viewed as related?
Sorry for not grasping it.
 
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HighPhy said:
What is the particular connection that allows these two responses to be viewed as related?
My statement that you quoted was in response to your statement about collapse. Look for the word "collapse" in what you quoted from @PeroK. What does it say about that?
 
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PeterDonis said:
My statement that you quoted was in response to your statement about collapse. Look for the word "collapse" in what you quoted from @PeroK. What does it say about that?
It says "if we measure about the z-axis, we get either ##\pm \frac{\hbar}{2}## and the state collapses to z-spin-up or z-spin-down."

I may have understood. I focused my attention on the rest of the response, but perhaps what @PeroK says is the mathematical description of your words in the comment I quoted. Correct?
 
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HighPhy said:
what @PeroK says is the mathematical description of your words in the comment I quoted. Correct?
Yes.
 
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HighPhy said:
It says "if we measure about the z-axis, we get either ##\pm \frac{\hbar}{2}## and the state collapses to z-spin-up or z-spin-down."

I may have understood. I focused my attention on the rest of the response, but perhaps what @PeroK says is the mathematical description of your words in the comment I quoted. Correct?
The spin state is an abstract vector in a 2D complex vector space; and, the spin measurable is a vector in physical space - although its components cannot all be well-defined.
 

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