About nature of superposition of states

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The discussion centers on the nature of the spin of an electron in quantum mechanics, specifically addressing whether an electron possesses a definite spin value prior to observation or exists in a superposition of states. Participants assert that the electron's spin is indeed in a superposed state until measured, at which point it collapses into one of the observable states. The Hilbert space representation of a single spin-1/2 particle, or qubit, is referenced, highlighting that its state corresponds to points on the Bloch sphere. The conversation also touches on the implications of quantum mechanics for understanding reality, emphasizing that quantum properties do not necessitate classical existence.

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  • Study the mathematical framework of quantum mechanics, focusing on Hilbert spaces and qubits.
  • Explore Bell's theorem and its experimental validations regarding quantum entanglement and measurement.
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  • Read David Lindley's book “Where Did the Weirdness Go?” for a layman-friendly explanation of quantum mechanics.
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Students and professionals in physics, particularly those interested in quantum mechanics, quantum computing, and the philosophical implications of quantum theory. This discussion is also beneficial for anyone seeking to understand the foundational concepts of quantum states and measurements.

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I was re-reading the previous posts, but a question arose.
Some posts ago, I said:

HighPhy said:
When you observe the spin, this probability distribution collapses to a defined state, and then your measurement changes that probability distribution. Depending on the case, it can collapse it to a very simple one - probability 1 for a certain value and 0 for all others.

As answers, I obtained:

PeroK said:
Spin is a 3D vector quantity. In QM, only spin about one axis can be defined - spin about the other two axes remains undefined. If we measure about the z-axis, we get either ##\pm \frac \hbar 2## and the state collapses to z-spin-up or z-spin-down. Subsequent measurements of a free particle will always give the same outcome. But, measurements about the x or y-axis will give ##\pm \frac \hbar 2## with equal probability.

Moreover, if the particle is in a magnetic field, then the state will naturally evolve from the initial state or z-spin-up or z-spin-down. Look up Larmor Precession.
PeterDonis said:
For spin measurements, this will always be the case, since spin is a discrete observable.
What is the particular connection that allows these two responses to be viewed as related?
Sorry for not grasping it.
 
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HighPhy said:
What is the particular connection that allows these two responses to be viewed as related?
My statement that you quoted was in response to your statement about collapse. Look for the word "collapse" in what you quoted from @PeroK. What does it say about that?
 
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PeterDonis said:
My statement that you quoted was in response to your statement about collapse. Look for the word "collapse" in what you quoted from @PeroK. What does it say about that?
It says "if we measure about the z-axis, we get either ##\pm \frac{\hbar}{2}## and the state collapses to z-spin-up or z-spin-down."

I may have understood. I focused my attention on the rest of the response, but perhaps what @PeroK says is the mathematical description of your words in the comment I quoted. Correct?
 
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HighPhy said:
what @PeroK says is the mathematical description of your words in the comment I quoted. Correct?
Yes.
 
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HighPhy said:
It says "if we measure about the z-axis, we get either ##\pm \frac{\hbar}{2}## and the state collapses to z-spin-up or z-spin-down."

I may have understood. I focused my attention on the rest of the response, but perhaps what @PeroK says is the mathematical description of your words in the comment I quoted. Correct?
The spin state is an abstract vector in a 2D complex vector space; and, the spin measurable is a vector in physical space - although its components cannot all be well-defined.
 

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