About the sequence of walter greiner's physic series

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The discussion revolves around the sequence of Walter Greiner's physics series, which consists of 14 books covering topics in quantum mechanics, classical mechanics, electrodynamics, and thermodynamics. Participants are exploring the best order to approach these texts for self-study and evaluating their quality as educational resources.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant lists the entire sequence of Greiner's books, indicating a desire to learn them independently.
  • Another participant suggests a sequence starting with Classical Mechanics (books 11-14) followed by the quantum mechanics series (books 1-10), noting that some topics in Statistical Mechanics require techniques from Quantum Field Theory (QFT).
  • A different participant argues that the book on Nuclear Models (book 10) primarily requires knowledge from the quantum mechanics series to be understood.
  • One participant questions the overall quality of the books, mentioning they have not seen them used in classes or recommended by others.
  • Another participant expresses satisfaction with the books, claiming they are superior to many other available resources and highlighting their roots in the German mathematical tradition.

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Participants express differing opinions on the best sequence for studying the books, with no consensus on a definitive order. Additionally, there are mixed views on the quality and utility of the books for self-teaching.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention dependencies between topics, such as the need for quantum mechanics knowledge to understand nuclear models, but these connections remain unresolved in terms of their implications for the sequence of study.

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I want to learn these books by myself,but I don't know the sequence.

Walter Greiner course of Physics - 14 Books Summary:
1 Quantum Mechanics: An Introduction
2 Quantum Mechanics. Special Chapters
3. Quantum Mechanics: Symmetries
4. Relativistic Quantum Mechanics. Wave Equations
5. Field Quantization
6. Quantum Electrodynamics
7. Quantum Electrodynamics of Strong Fields: With an Introduction into Modern Relativistic Quantum Mechanics
8. Quantum Chromodynamics
9. Gauge Theory of Weak Interactions
10. Nuclear Models
11. Classical Mechanics: Point Particles and Relativity
12. Classical Mechanics: Systems of Particles and Hamiltonian Dynamics
13. Classical Electrodynamics
14. Thermodynamics and Statistical Mechanics
 
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My suggestion is to look at the preface and see his suggested sequence. Mine would be 11, 12, 13, 14, then 1-10 in that order.

Not having said that, there are subjects in Statistical Mechanics which need techniques from QFT...
 
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I agree with Dr Transport in general.

But 10. Nuclear Models really only requires the QM series to understand and work through
 
By the way, are these books any good? They look quite nice but I've never seen them used in classes or recommended by people or anything.
 
Thank you all! I've read 11. Classical Mechanics: Point Particles and Relativity,and the general part of the 14. Thermodynamics and Statistical Mechanics,i'll keep reading in your seggested sequence and look for better books.
Are these books no good for teaching myself?
 
I have most of tehse books and I find tyhem just perfect and surely better than 80% of what you can find on purchase. Those books are in the pure german mathematical tradition and its really hard to find something similar elsewhere as the jewels from French/German mathamatics and physics are not easily accessible.
 

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