Absolute value of a function integrable?

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The discussion revolves around proving the integrability of a function \( f \) that is continuous on the interval \( (a,b] \) and has a bounded absolute value on \( [a,b] \). The participants are exploring the implications of continuity and boundedness in the context of Riemann integrals.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss constructing Riemann sums and the significance of boundedness and continuity in establishing integrability. There are questions about the relevance of the absolute value being bounded and the connection to the upper and lower limits of the function.

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Some participants are attempting to clarify the relationship between the boundedness of \( |f| \) and the integrability of \( f \). Others are expressing confusion regarding the application of the intermediate value theorem and the conditions under which the function is integrable. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations and approaches without a clear consensus.

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Participants are working under the assumption that \( f \) is not necessarily continuous at point \( a \), which adds complexity to the discussion. There is also mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the implications of boundedness on integrability.

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this is the question,
Prove that if f is continuous on (a,b] and if |f| is bounded on [a,b] then f is integrable on [a,b]. (note: it is not assumed that f is continuous at a.)

I know you have to use the upper and lower bounds to prove this statement but i don't know where to start?

Thanks,
Jonnah Song
 
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The simplest thing to do is to construct Riemann sums with base having n intervals taking one "rectangle" with base from a to a+ 1/n. Since f is bounded and continuous on (a, b], it is integrable from a+ 1/n to b and the area of the "leftmost rectangle", from a to a+ 1/n goes to 0 as 1/n goes to 0.

By the way, this doesn't have anything at all to do with |f| being integrable. In fact, I don't know why you say "|f| bounded". That is exactly equivalent to f itself being bounded which is the important thing.
 
but, that's what it says on the question. I didn't state that.
 
My TA said " this function is integrable if and only if the upper and lower limits are the same. Function is continuous, so consider the intermediate value theorem." Do you guys have any idea what he's talking about?

I'm very confused.
 
I'm still not sure how to solve this.. because..

I tried doing this...
We set sk= inf U(f,P)
tk= sup L(f,P)
define step function s and t by letting their values equal
sk and tk on (xk-1, xk)
s(xk)= t(xk)= f(xk)
s(x)\leqf(x)\leqt(x) for all x
tk-sk<E
\int(a+1/n, b) t - \int(a+1/n, b) = \int(a+1/n, b)(t-s) \leq E(b-a)
therefore f is integrable on [a+1/n, b]

On the other hand,
for [a, a+1/n]
lim \int (a, a+1/n) f\leqE(a+1/n-a)
n\rightarrow0
lim \int (a, a+1/n) f\leq E(1/n)
therefore f is integrable on [a,a+1/n]
therefore f is integrable on [a,b]

what am i doing wrong?
because i got this wrong.
 

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