Accelerated Physics course with lab options

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The discussion revolves around finding accelerated, in-person Physics 1 and 2 courses with lab options for non-degree students, particularly in California. Participants explore various institutions and programs that might offer transferable credits, while considering the challenges of course availability and the need for a strong lab experience.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Cyrus, seeks in-person, accelerated Physics courses with lab components, expressing a preference for institutions in California but is open to out-of-state options.
  • Another participant notes that algebra-based Physics courses are difficult to transfer into engineering programs, suggesting that calculus-based courses are typically required for engineering majors.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of finding online programs that provide adequate lab experiences and the challenges of rushing through STEM courses.
  • There is mention of the possibility of transferring previous college coursework, with some schools allowing more than the typical upper limit of 62 credits.
  • Cyrus shares that UCLA is heavily impacted, making it challenging to enroll in desired courses, and discusses the potential delay and cost of taking courses at Oregon State University.
  • Another participant suggests looking for summer physics courses as a potentially accelerated option with smaller class sizes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the transferability of various Physics courses, with some emphasizing the need for calculus-based courses for engineering programs. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best options for Cyrus's specific needs.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations related to course availability, the impact of wait lists, and the specific requirements of different degree programs. There is also mention of the potential for delays and increased costs associated with certain course options.

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Individuals seeking accelerated Physics courses with lab components, particularly those pursuing degrees in engineering or related fields, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hey guys,

I checked through previous posts, none that I found quite matched what I'm looking for so i thought I'd create a new one. I apologize in advance if someone finds an identical topic, by all means, link it to me!

Anyway, I'm in a position right now where my job is entirely remote, and I've decided to return to school for a second bachelors in Electrical Engineering. It's something I've always wanted to do, and I don't think i'll get a better opportunity than this. I'm willing to make the sacrifice to my social life, among other things, to get this done.

To do this in a timely manner, I have found online courses to match my needs through Oregon State University, and Rio Salado (Community College in Arizona). Both these provide transferable coursework (with proctored exams) to the Universities I intend to apply to. However, I do not want to take Physics 1 and 2 online, even if lab kits are included. These are courses I'd rather take in person, in an accelerated format if possible.

I've considered the following two programs, and I'm inquiring with the Universities I'm applying to if their courses will transfer, but they do not always provide the Physics courses in their block. It's based on having sufficient enrollment, which is hit or miss.

https://www.integratedscienceprogram.com/accelerated-science-courses/physics-1/

http://www.scuhs.edu/academics/ios/

So my question is this...

I know I'll be paying a penalty (in dollars mostly) to take these courses. If that wasn't a concern, do any of you ladies and gents know of Institutions that provide transferable Physics 1L & 2L courses for non-degree students pressed for time? I'd prefer these courses to be in California (Oregon and Arizona would be runner ups), but I'm determined enough that I would go out of state.

Pre-med accelerated courses seem to be the best options. I know that seems weird, but the subject taught at this level shouldn't matter if it's meant for allied health or STEM degrees. I'll take any advice or options I could get.

thanks in advance guys,

Cyrus
 
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Well the first one is an algebra based Physics 1 & 2 program. These are very difficult to transfer for credit into an engineering program (possible if an Engineering Technology program, but there is a difference). These types of programs are used for majors that do not rely upon deeper mathematics. Engineering majors are expected to take calculus based physics.
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Not sure about your second reference as it was not nearly as quick or as easy to research.
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However, it is very hard to find an online program that will provide you with a decent lab experience. And rushing a STEM type course is also very difficult.
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Many schools will allow you to transfer in previous college coursework into their programs. Most have an upper ceiling of 62 credits, but a few (and it is a few, small number) will allow more. What about your original school? Often schools are making even more options available to today's students. Your original school would be the most generous in offering you a chance to graduate with a double major. Admittedly, their offerings may not include what you want or require, but for getting that second bachelors, it would be the fastest.
 
CalcNerd said:
Well the first one is an algebra based Physics 1 & 2 program. These are very difficult to transfer for credit into an engineering program (possible if an Engineering Technology program, but there is a difference). These types of programs are used for majors that do not rely upon deeper mathematics. Engineering majors are expected to take calculus based physics.
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Not sure about your second reference as it was not nearly as quick or as easy to research.
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However, it is very hard to find an online program that will provide you with a decent lab experience. And rushing a STEM type course is also very difficult.
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Many schools will allow you to transfer in previous college coursework into their programs. Most have an upper ceiling of 62 credits, but a few (and it is a few, small number) will allow more. What about your original school? Often schools are making even more options available to today's students. Your original school would be the most generous in offering you a chance to graduate with a double major. Admittedly, their offerings may not include what you want or require, but for getting that second bachelors, it would be the fastest.

Hey Thanks for your response, really appreciate it.

Firstly, I have found online Physics / lab courses, but I'm looking for a course and lab in person. Specifically one not bottle-necked by wait lists and strict session/semester/quarter blocks. I know I'm asking for a lot there, but never hurts to ask!

I graduated from UCLA, and I intend to use some of the coursework as you suggest to transfer into a new program (along with others taken at OSU and Rio Salado). I've been working with an adviser on this, the only hole in the plan is the physics curriculum.

As for taking courses at UCLA, well, that University is so heavily impacted the door pretty much closes once you get your diploma. There's UCLA extension, but no comparable Physics course.

If need be I suppose I could take the Physics series next fall at Oregon State University, but this is 1) Slow (it would delay me a year) and 2) expensive (even more so than I originally suggested, since it will be over 9 months).

I realize as I type this Oregon State it's probably my best option, but never hurts to ask.
 
Many schools offer physics courses over the summer. That's accelerated and even tends to have smaller classes. Why not look for that? You'll need calculus-based physics courses.
 

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