Accelerating to a stop in the Milky Way Galaxy

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of a spacecraft stopping while traveling with the Sun around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. Participants explore the implications of such a maneuver, including the forces required to decelerate and the relative motion of stars in the galaxy.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a spacecraft could travel to another solar system by stopping while moving with the Sun at 536,865 mph.
  • Another participant asks about the force required to "stop" at that speed.
  • It is suggested that the force needed to stop would be the same as that required to accelerate to 536,865 mph.
  • Some participants note that stopping is as challenging as accelerating due to the principles of relativity, especially when there is no external reference point to "grab onto."
  • One participant humorously remarks on the long wait for the next star to approach, given the Sun's speed relative to the galactic frame of reference.
  • Another point raised is that there may be no real advantage to stopping relative to the galactic center, as nearby stars also orbit it.
  • There are humorous comments about the difficulty of understanding physics and its effects on mental well-being.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the feasibility and implications of stopping in space, with no consensus reached on the practicality of such an action or the benefits of doing so.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of motion in space and the principles of relativity are present, but these are not fully explored or resolved within the discussion.

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TL;DR
Travelling around the galaxy at zero mph
If the sun is traveling around the center of the Milky Way at a speed of 536,865 mph and we are tagging along with it, couldn’t a spacecraft travel to another solar system by stopping?

Would it be possible currently to slow down from that speed to 0 mph?

And lastly, why does physics make my brain hurt 😂
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Sure. How much force does it take to "stop" it?
 
The same as it would take to accelerate to 536,865 mph?
 
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Dang3rmouse said:
And lastly, why does physics make my brain hurt 😂
I am guessing that it hurts because there is too much physics pressure from the outside. Perhaps you should put more physics in your brain to equalize the pressure and ease the pain. If that doesn't work, please see a brain specialist because the source of your pain could be something other than physics.
 
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Dang3rmouse said:
Travelling around the galaxy at zero mph
Stop the world ! You want to get off ?
536,865 mph is only a trivial 240 km per second.
You will be waiting an eternity for the next one.
 
Dang3rmouse said:
The same as it would take to accelerate to 536,865 mph?
Yes. Stopping is just as hard as speeding up when there is nothing to grab on to. That is, more or less, the principle of relativity.
 
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Baluncore said:
Stop the world ! You want to get off ?
536,865 mph is only a trivial 240 km per second.
You will be waiting an eternity for the next one.
The speed of light is about ##300,000## km per second, so the Sun takes about ##1,250## years to travel a light year relative to the galactic frame of reference. So, yes, it would be a long time until the next star comes past.
 
The basic point here is: There is no real benefit in "stopping" relative to the galactic center over traveling by going in any other direction since the stars in our neighbourhood also orbit the galactic center.
 
kuruman said:
I am guessing that it hurts because there is too much physics pressure from the outside. Perhaps you should put more physics in your brain to equalize the pressure and ease the pain. If that doesn't work, please see a brain specialist because the source of your pain could be something other than physics.
I'm saving this for that moment in the future when one of my students complain about a headache from the subject. 😁
 
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