Acceleration from Vi, Vf and Distance

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The discussion centers on calculating the necessary acceleration of the Shinkansen to avoid a collision with a slow-moving freight train. The derived formula for the required acceleration is a = [(Vs - Vf)^2] / (2D), where Vs is the speed of the Shinkansen, Vf is the speed of the freight train, and D is the initial distance between the two trains. The user attempts to validate their solution using kinematic equations but expresses uncertainty about their method. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying relative velocity and acceleration concepts in physics.

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Homework Statement


7. The engineer driving the Shinkansen (Japanese bullet train)
from Tokyo to Kyoto is having a nice day until he rounds a
bend and suddenly sees a slow-moving freight train on his
track. Both trains are traveling west, with speeds vs and vf
respectively. Of course, as soon as the Shinkansen engineer
sees the freight train, he applies the brakes; at that instant,
the distance between the two trains is D. Show that if a
collision is to be avoided, the magnitude of the Shinkansen's
acceleration must be at least

a =[(Vs-Vf)^2]/2D



Homework Equations



x(T)=Xi+ViT+(1/2)aT^2
D=VsT a=vT

The Attempt at a Solution



This is my attempt at a solution I got the same thing but I'm almost 99.99% certain my method isn't the correct one so any help will really help me my quiz is tomorrow heheh, so any hint please. Thanks in advance.

Since both trains move in the same direction the relative velocity Vr=Vs-Vf since they were @ different points @ T the distance between them @ all times =D1=Vr(T)-D and D1=(Vs-Vf)T-D if they meet D1=0 then 0=(Vs-Vf)T-D gives D=(Vs-Vf)T since D is position D=x(T)=(1/2)aT^2 solve for T on both equations T=D/(Vs-Vf) and T^2=2x(T)/a
then D/(Vs-Vf)=(2x(T)/a)^(1/2) from this (D^2)/(Vs-Vf)^2=2D/a so this gives
a=[(Vs-Vf)^2]/2D


 
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Dekoy said:
since they were @ different points @ T the distance between them @ all times =D1=Vr(T)-D
That step isn't correct - you can't say that the distance between the trains at all times is equal to vrt - D, because there is a nonzero acceleration.
 
Thanks 1 error to go many more to come hehe, I hope I'll get it before tomorrow
 

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