Acceleration of object at specific height?

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The discussion centers around calculating the acceleration due to gravitational attraction at a height of 35,700 km above the Earth's surface, specifically for communication satellites. The problem involves understanding gravitational forces and the relevant equations, with the Earth’s radius and mass provided as context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formula for gravitational force and its relation to acceleration, questioning how to apply it without knowing the mass of the satellite. There is also confusion regarding the correct distance to use in calculations, particularly the total distance from the center of the Earth.

Discussion Status

Several participants have attempted calculations and shared results, noting discrepancies between their findings and a reference value of 0.225 m/s². Some suggest that variations in constants used may account for these differences. There is ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concern over the accuracy of their results and the reliance on tables for gravitational acceleration values. The discussion highlights the challenge of reconciling textbook values with calculated results.

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This stuff is so confusing! I really wish I were better at math... I had to take precalc math twice, so please try and dumb this down for me.
1. Homework Statement

Communication satellites orbit the Earth at a height of 35700km above the Earth's surface. What is the acceleration of an object due to the gravitational attraction by Earth at this height?
The Earth has a radius of 6.38x10^6m and a mass of 5.98x10^24kg

Possible answers (m/s^2):
0.0028
0.0065
0.044
0.225
8.55

Homework Equations


This is what I need to know??

The Attempt at a Solution


EDIT: I just found a table of varying g with altitude and it directly states that a satellite at that altitude has an acceleration of 0.225 m/s^2. Still, how are we supposed to find this without memorizing a table?
 
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KDprevet said:
This stuff is so confusing! I really wish I were better at math... I had to take precalc math twice, so please try and dumb this down for me.
1. Homework Statement

Communication satellites orbit the Earth at a height of 35700km above the Earth's surface. What is the acceleration of an object due to the gravitational attraction by Earth at this height?
The Earth has a radius of 6.38x10^6m and a mass of 5.98x10^24kg

Possible answers (m/s^2):
0.0028
0.0065
0.044
0.225
8.55

Homework Equations


This is what I need to know??

The Attempt at a Solution


EDIT: I just found a table of varying g with altitude and it directly states that a satellite at that altitude has an acceleration of 0.225 m/s^2. Still, how are we supposed to find this without memorizing a table?
Have you studied any formulas which might tell you the force due to gravitational attraction between two masses separated by a given distance?
 
Force = G(m2+m1)/r^2 but this does not give acceleration. F=ma requires mass of the sattelite which i do not have.
 
KDprevet said:
Force = G(m2+m1)/r^2
It's m1*m2, not m1+m2. You don't need mass of the satellite.
 
Force = (6.6726x10^-11)(5.98x10^24)/(6.38x10^6)^2 ... this is not correct. What do I do? I tried adding the distance from the satellite to Earth surface, and the distance from the satellite to the middle of the Earth to r^2 and that didn't help. Plus, force isn't acceleration. Is that still the correct formula? what do I do with it?
 
KDprevet said:
Force = (6.6726x10^-11)(5.98x10^24)/(6.38x10^6)^2
This is the formula for acceleration due to gravity at(and near) the surface of the earth. The satellite is at a height 37500km from the surface. How far is it from the center then? Calculate that distance and use it in place of r.
 
Using that method, I got something like 0.207, which is not 0.225 but close? I don't like that it's not exact. This is really going to throw me off.
 
KDprevet said:
Using that method, I got something like 0.207, which is not 0.225 but close? I don't like that it's not exact. This is really going to throw me off.
I believe your answer is right. The values of mass of earth, G and radius of Earth are slightly different in each textbook. So, 0.207 is close to 0.225.
 
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Using that method, I got something like 0.207, which is not 0.225 but close? I don't like that it's not exact. This is really going to throw me off.
.207 does seem somewhat off to me. Please post all your working.
There are two routes you can take: apply GM/r2, where r=R+h, R being the radius of the Earth and h the height; or you can just look at the ratio to surface gravity: gR2/r2. I tried both, and both gave me around .225.
 

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