Acceleration of Two Masses on a Pulley with Moment of Inertia

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The discussion focuses on calculating the acceleration of two masses on a pulley with a moment of inertia defined as I=kMR². The derived formula for acceleration is a=(g(m₁+m₂))/(kM+m₁+m₂), which is incorrect. The correct formula should be a=(g(m₁-m₂))/(kM+m₁+m₂). The error stems from a missing gravitational term in the second equation related to tension forces.

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Homework Statement


The pulley on the drawing has moment of inertia of I=kMR2.
What's the acceleration.

Homework Equations


[tex]M=I\alpha[/tex]

[tex]F=ma[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]m_1g-T_1=m_1a[/tex]
[tex]T_2-m_2=m_2a[/tex]
[tex]\mbox{ }R\alpha=a[/tex]
[tex](T_1-T_2)R=kMR^2\cdot\alpha[/tex]

all these yield:
[tex]a=\frac{g(m_1+m_2)}{kM+m_1+m_2}[/tex]
While the answer should be:
[tex]a=\frac{g(m_1-m_2)}{kM+m_1+m_2}[/tex]
 

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Karol said:

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]m_1g-T_1=m_1a[/tex]
[tex]T_2-m_2=m_2a[/tex]
[tex]\mbox{ }R\alpha=a[/tex]
[tex](T_1-T_2)R=kMR^2\cdot\alpha[/tex]

All is correct up to here, but the missing g in the second equation.

Karol said:
all these yield:
[tex]a=\frac{g(m_1+m_2)}{kM+m_1+m_2}[/tex]

Check it.

T1=m1(g-a),
T2=m2(g+a)

T1-T2?ehild
 
Thanks!
 

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