Acceleration/Tension between two masses

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The discussion centers on solving a physics problem involving two masses, m1 (5.0 kg) and m2 (2.0 kg), with given friction coefficients Mk1 (0.20) and Mk2 (0.15). The objective is to calculate the acceleration and tension between the two masses, with the final results being approximately 11.4 m/s² for acceleration and 26 N for tension. Key equations used include the normal force equation (n - mg = 0) and the force balance equation (Force - Kinetic Friction - Tension = mass * acceleration). A proper understanding of free body diagrams and Newton's laws is essential for solving such problems.

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Homework Statement



I am currently taking a Summer physics course, and today we were given a Force/Friction problem that even after the professor explained, I could not fully understand.

https://de6d4c993829dd9a7ebe8c71bf32cb36b6fe5892.googledrive.com/host/0B79Pxd57IVb7aWU0Q3JqeG5XbjQ/FreeBodyFrictionPrblm.png

Mass of Objects: m1=5.0kg m2=2.0kg

Given Friction Valules: Mk1 (Between Block and Surface) = 0.20 Mk
Mk2 (Between Blocks) = 0.15

I am supposed to find acceleration, as well as the tension between the two masses.

Homework Equations



Equations that he used to solve the problem:

n-mg=0

Force-Kinetic Friction-Tension = mass*acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution



I was able to draw a free body diagram of the system, however, I only included 2 values for normal force and Kinetic Friction, where in his complete Free Body Diagram, there were 3 values for both. I really got lost when he solved the problem using a system of equations towards the end.

The acceleration ended up being 80/7 m/s2, or about 11.4 m/s2, and tension ended up being around 26 N.

I have been studying this topic, but I don't really understand the fundamentals of the whole process, and memorizing formulas hasn't helped whatsoever. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
 
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kbru said:

Homework Statement



I am currently taking a Summer physics course, and today we were given a Force/Friction problem that even after the professor explained, I could not fully understand.

https://de6d4c993829dd9a7ebe8c71bf32cb36b6fe5892.googledrive.com/host/0B79Pxd57IVb7aWU0Q3JqeG5XbjQ/FreeBodyFrictionPrblm.png

Mass of Objects: m1=5.0kg m2=2.0kg

Given Friction Valules: Mk1 (Between Block and Surface) = 0.20 Mk
Mk2 (Between Blocks) = 0.15

I am supposed to find acceleration, as well as the tension between the two masses.

Homework Equations



Equations that he used to solve the problem:

n-mg=0

Force-Kinetic Friction-Tension = mass*acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution



I was able to draw a free body diagram of the system, however, I only included 2 values for normal force and Kinetic Friction, where in his complete Free Body Diagram, there were 3 values for both. I really got lost when he solved the problem using a system of equations towards the end.

The acceleration ended up being 80/7 m/s2, or about 11.4 m/s2, and tension ended up being around 26 N.

I have been studying this topic, but I don't really understand the fundamentals of the whole process, and memorizing formulas hasn't helped whatsoever. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
you should draw free body diagrams of each object separately. Identify all the forces acting on each object, and apply Newtons laws. All accelerations are with respect to the ground. Note that the top and bottom objects have the same acceleration but in opposite directions. And the cord tensions on each are the same. No acceleration in vert direction. Do not draw a free body of the blocks together...split them up.
 
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