Tension between two objects moving at constant velocity

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The problem involves a railway engine and a line of trucks, focusing on the tension in the coupling between them under different conditions of motion, specifically with an acceleration and at constant velocity. The subject area pertains to dynamics and forces, particularly Newton's second law.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the tension in the coupling under two scenarios: with acceleration and at constant velocity. They express confusion regarding the zero tension when moving at constant velocity and seek clarification on this point.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide insights into the relationship between acceleration and force, noting that zero acceleration implies zero force. There is a suggestion to simplify the calculations for the tension in the coupling, focusing on the mass of the trucks rather than the engine. The discussion appears to be exploring different interpretations of the problem without reaching a definitive consensus.

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Participants are discussing the implications of constant velocity and the assumptions related to forces acting on the system. There is an emphasis on understanding the dynamics involved without providing complete solutions.

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Homework Statement


A railway engine of mass 100 tonnes is attached to a line of trucks of total mass 80 tonnes. Assuming there is no resistance to motion, find the tension in the coupling between the engine and the leading truck when the train: (a) has an acceleration of 0.020 ms-2, (b) is moving at constant velocity.

Answers:
(a) 1.6 kN, (b) zero

Homework Equations


F = ma
Weight = mg

The Attempt at a Solution


(a) Ftotal = (100+80)*103 * 0.02 = 3600 N
Fengine = 100*103 * 0.02 = 2000 N
T = 3600 - 2000 = 1600 N

(b) Constant velocity = 0 acceleration. But I don't quite understand why there is 0 tension. Any tips? Thank you.
 
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What else would you expect?
Zero acceleration is just a special case for F=ma, if acceleration is zero the force is zero as well.

You can simplify the calculation for (a) by the way, there is no need to consider the engine mass.
 
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mfb said:
What else would you expect?
Zero acceleration is just a special case for F=ma, if acceleration is zero the force is zero as well.

You can simplify the calculation for (a) by the way, there is no need to consider the engine mass.
Thank you. So in general, just calculate the F of the attached part (in this case the trucks) and it would be the tension: F = 80*103 * 0.02 = 1600 N. And if a = 0 then F = 80*103 * 0 = 0. I got you words correctly?
 
In general, you have to see what pulls what in which way.
In this case: yes, right.
 
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