Accessing electrons from the Fermi Sea?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of accessing electrons from the Fermi sea, particularly in the context of metals and semiconductors. Participants explore the feasibility of using materials as electron sources and the mechanisms involved in electron excitation across potential barriers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the feasibility of using the Fermi sea as an electron source and seeks clarification on the requirements and historical attempts to do so.
  • Another participant suggests that free electrons in metals can be accessed through photoemission, indicating a method for utilizing the Fermi sea in metals.
  • A participant clarifies that the discussion pertains to semiconductors, highlighting the potential barrier that separates the conduction band from the Fermi level.
  • Another participant points out that many semiconductor devices operate on the principle of electrons gaining energy to cross the band gap, suggesting existing methods for accessing electrons in semiconductors.
  • A participant with expertise in high-quantum efficiency (QE) photocathodes notes that semiconductors are already used to access electrons through light sources, referencing historical materials used in phototubes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accessibility of electrons from the Fermi sea, particularly between metals and semiconductors. While some acknowledge existing methods for accessing electrons, others question the understanding of these processes and the potential for new approaches.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of electron dynamics in different materials and the varying mechanisms for accessing electrons, which may depend on specific conditions and definitions related to semiconductors and metals.

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Recently a few friends and I were discussing the Fermi sea.

One friend made the statement that if you could access the electrons from the Fermi Sea you could use the material you accessed them from as an electron source. Didn't make sense to me but it got me wondering.

My question is, What would it take? Why hasn't it been done/tried before?
 
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Well, I am a little confused. The free electrons in a metal makes up the Fermi sea, and one can immediately use them as an electron source by shining light on the metal by photoemission.

Was this the question?
 
Sorry, we were talking about removing them from a semiconductor material.

I know that in metals the conduction band and Fermi level overlaps, but in semiconductors there is a potential barrier that separates them.

My friend said if you could find a way to get those electrons across the barrier you could use the semiconductor as a separate electron source. Just got me thinking, perhaps there is a way you could really do this...?
 
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. Many semiconductor devices work on this exact principle. Examples include semiconductor transistors, solar cells, and photoresistors. Electrons are given enough energy to jump the band gap and go from the valence band to the conduction band.
 
I'm confused also.

One of my area is high-QE photocathodes. All of the material (and I mean ALL) that we use to make these high-QE photocathodes are semiconductors. And we are using light sources to get those electrons in the valence band of the material.

And this is nothing new. Material such as the antimonides (eg: CsKSb, etc.) have been used in phototubes since the 50's.

So yes, we HAVE been "accessing electrons from the Fermi sea".

Zz.
 

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