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The discussion revolves around the concept of accumulation points in the context of a specific mathematical set defined by a sequence involving cosine functions. Participants express confusion regarding the definition and application of accumulation points, as well as the examples provided in their textbook.

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  • Participants explore the definition of accumulation points, questioning the clarity of their textbook's examples. They discuss the nature of the set S and attempt to identify points where infinitely many elements of S are arbitrarily close.

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Some participants have offered clarifications and examples to aid understanding, while others express frustration with the textbook's explanations. There is ongoing exploration of the set's behavior and potential accumulation points, with no clear consensus reached on specific points yet.

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Participants note the lack of clear guidance in their textbook and express uncertainty about the definitions and examples provided. There is also mention of potential confusion due to typographical similarities in terms like "infinite" and "non-empty."

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This is the definition of accumulation point that my book gives:

A is an accumulation point of S \subset \mathbb{R}, \forall \epsilon > 0, S \bigcap B(A;\epsilon) is infinite.

The book I have gives horrible examples on what accumulation points actually are (contradicting itself two out of the three times), but never actually gives instructions on how to find the points.

This is the question I have to solve:

Find the accumulation points of

S = \left\{\frac{2}{n} + (1 - \frac{1}{n})cos(\frac{n\pi}{2}) : n \in\mathbb{N}\right\}

Can anyone help to actually explain to me, in english, what an accumulation point is? I tried Wikipedia but it's more of this meaningless jargon.

Hopefully, understanding what it is I'm looking for will show me how to answer this question. If not, I could use help there too.

I'd post some relevant work I've done on this problem, but I really have no idea where to start! Why can't analysis books ever actually explain things as if I might actually not understand their initial rambling?
 
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In english, an accumulation point of S is a point A of R such that you can find points of S (different from A) arbitrarily close to A.

Some enlightening examples are:

(1) If S={x} is made of just one point, then it has no accumulation point.
(2) In R, every point is an accumulation point.
(3) The set {1/n: n in N} has 0 as its unique accumulation point.
 
Why couldn't this book have just said that? That makes complete sense. My book doesn't like making sense. I don't think this was written to be a textbook at all, because it certainly doesn't read like it's trying to teach!

Ok so for the question I'm looking for points a,b,c, etc. where I can find infinitely many points arbitrarily close to those points.

Judging from the set itself, it looks like we get S = {2, 1/2, 2/3, 5/4, 2/5, -1/2, 2/7, 9/8, 2/9, -7/10, 2/11...}

Skrew it, I graphed the rest

It looks like it will just go back to looking like a typical cosine graph (which I guess is to be expected since 2/n and 1/n go to 0)

So if we set n_{k} = 2k \Rightarrow\left\{\frac{1}{k} + (1 - \frac{1}{2k})cos(k\pi) \right\} \rightarrow (-1,1)

and n_{k+1} = 2k+1 \Rightarrow\left\{\frac{2}{2k+1} + (1 - \frac{1}{2k+1})cos(\frac{\pi(2k+1)}{2}) \right\} \rightarrow {0}

Ok I think I broke my brain. Did any of that make sense? If it does, are the accumulation points for the set -1,0,1?

If it didn't make any sense (because I'm supposing it doesn't at this point, I've had a bit of a head cold all weekend), where should I actually be heading?
 
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That's perfect.
 
From the definition of the book, if x is in S, then x is an accumulation point of S
 
Office_Shredder said:
From the definition of the book, if x is in S, then x is an accumulation point of S

How come?

H2Pendragon said:
This is the definition of accumulation point that my book gives:

A is an accumulation point of S \subset \mathbb{R}, \forall \epsilon > 0, S \bigcap B(A;\epsilon) is infinite.

For instance, take S={x}. Then \forall \epsilon > 0, \ S \cap B(A;\epsilon)=\{x\}, which is not infinite!
 
infinite and non-empty look very similar on my laptop screen :o
 

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