Accurate Height(above sea level) Measurement Device

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for accurately measuring the height above sea level for a small vehicle, considering various constraints such as the vehicle's environment and required precision of 10mm. Participants explore different measurement techniques and their feasibility in the context of the vehicle's operation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using GPS for height measurement but notes its ineffectiveness due to the vehicle traveling under a thick steel structure.
  • Another participant argues that neither GPS nor an altimeter would provide the required accuracy of 10mm.
  • A static pressure port connected to a large plenum is proposed as a potential solution for height measurement.
  • There is a suggestion to use an inclinometer along with the distance traveled to calculate elevation changes, contingent on the vehicle rolling rather than flying.
  • One participant proposes laying an RF transmitting cable along the path at a known altitude for readings, assuming the distance traveled is not extensive.
  • An inertial navigation unit (INU) is mentioned as a possible solution, though it may involve significant cost.
  • A participant raises the idea of using laser rangefinding to measure distance to the ground or a structure above, given the vehicle's low altitude.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the effectiveness of different measurement techniques, with no consensus reached on a single solution. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best approach to achieve the desired accuracy.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations such as the dependence on the vehicle's operational environment, the challenges posed by terrain, and the accuracy constraints of suggested methods.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in engineering projects related to height measurement, particularly in challenging environments, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi Guys

I am new engineering and would appreciate any advice or ideas on this project. I need to measure the height above sea level of a small vehicle that I am building..
My first idea was GPS, but the vehicle is going travel under a thick steel structure, so it will not work.
I thought about a pitot tube but there are many random gusts of wind, so the readings may be compromised. I need an accuracy of about 10mm.

Any input will be much appreciated.
Thanks!
 
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You're going to find this to be a pretty tall order - neither GPS nor an altimeter would give you that kind of accuracy anyway.
 
Thanks for your reply Russ.
A relative altitude would also do fine.
 
A static pressure port connected to a large plenum should do the trick.
 
Eng_Student said:
Hi Guys

I am new engineering and would appreciate any advice or ideas on this project. I need to measure the height above sea level of a small vehicle that I am building..
My first idea was GPS, but the vehicle is going travel under a thick steel structure, so it will not work.
I thought about a pitot tube but there are many random gusts of wind, so the readings may be compromised. I need an accuracy of about 10mm.

Any input will be much appreciated.
Thanks!

Does this vehicle fly or roll? If it rolls, can you use an inclinometer and distance traveled to give you elevation change information?
 
Thanks for your responses guys, I will be looking into them!

Berkeman: the vehicle rolls, so it is a good idea. However, the vehicle travels a complicated path through holes and over rocks etc, so the continuous computation might be tricky?
 
If this thing doesn't have to travel for really long distances, could you lay an RF transmitting cable along the path above ground at a known altitude and take readings from it?
 
Eng_Student said:
Thanks for your responses guys, I will be looking into them!

Berkeman: the vehicle rolls, so it is a good idea. However, the vehicle travels a complicated path through holes and over rocks etc, so the continuous computation might be tricky?

Not if you have a good inclinometer and don't lose traction at the wheels.
 
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If you're flying under a steel structure, that tells me you're not very far off the ground- could you use some sort of laser rangefinding to the ground or structure above?
 

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