Adding xylitol to hot water lowers the boiling point and makes it boil

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of adding xylitol to hot water, specifically focusing on the observed phenomenon of boiling and the underlying molecular interactions. Participants explore the thermodynamic principles involved, including Gibbs free energy and activation energy, while also considering comparisons with salt and general solute behavior in solvents.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that adding xylitol to boiling water causes it to boil again, suggesting a lowering of the boiling point, and seeks to understand the molecular interactions involved.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of Gibbs free energy, explaining that the addition of a solute like xylitol alters the phase transition points of water.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that energy may be released when xylitol dissolves, potentially raising the temperature of the solution, but expresses uncertainty about whether this is sufficient to reach boiling temperature.
  • One participant asserts that adding any solute to water typically increases the boiling point and decreases the freezing point, inviting further input from others with more expertise on xylitol solutions.
  • Another participant draws parallels with salt, questioning the relevance of predicting molecular interactions in this context.
  • A participant discusses activation energy and its role in bubble formation, emphasizing that the phenomenon is not exclusive to xylitol and involves the interactions between liquid molecules.
  • There is a question raised about the nature of dissolving xylitol, specifically whether it dissociates into ions, which is clarified by another participant stating that dissociation is not a necessary part of the dissolution process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effects of adding xylitol to water, with some agreeing on the general principles of solute behavior while others present competing interpretations of the specific interactions and outcomes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact mechanisms and effects of xylitol compared to other solutes like salt.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of molecular interactions and phase transitions, noting that individual molecular behavior may not fully capture collective effects. There is also mention of the limitations in understanding the dissolution process of xylitol without further clarification on its chemical behavior.

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This probably occurs with salt too but let's concentrate on xylitol: you heat water till it boils, put the hot water in a cup and add a tsp of xylitol. It boils again violently for a couple of seconds. The high school explanation is that the boiling point of the water is lowered. I'd like to know what happens in terms of energy, and at the molecular level: as in, you have 1000 molecules of water vibrating and a molecule of xylitol gets close. Why would the neighbouring water molecules vibrate more next to xylitol?
 
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You can't really get a good picture of collective effects (like phase transitions) by focusing on individual molecules.

What is at play is the Gibbs free energy (G) of the different phases. Water will go from liquid to gas at 100 °C because at that point the G curves of the liquid and gas cross, and Ggas < Gliquid for T > 100 °C.

Adding a solute only affects the liquid phase (since the solute will not be present in the gas), so it changes the point where the curves cross. See the nice graphs at
https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshe..._Some_Applications_of_Entropy_and_Free_Energy
 
One might guess that some energy is released when dissolving xylitol in water, raising the temperature of the water solution. Enough to make liquid reach the boiling temperature for the mixture? Not sure myself.

I would imagine better, that adding any solute to solvent (water) would INCREASE the boiling point and DECREASE the freeze point. We can wait for other members who have a better familiarity with xylitol-water solutions.
 
Exactly the same thing happens with salt. Is it really a physics problem if you're trying to predict what will happen if a single molecule of salt falls through air molecules till it hits water molecules?
 
It is more about activation energy required for bubble building, and not limited to xylitol.

Saturated vapor pressure depends on the interactions between liquid molecules. When the phase interface is flat, molecules interact with others occupying exactly half the full solid angle. Depending on whether the surface is convex or concave there are more or less intermolecular interactions and saturated vapor pressure goes up or down (think capillary condensation).

When you add any solid into the water it initially has plenty of convex and concave places, were water gets curved, hence it starts to boil quickly.

If you have a good stainless steel pot with smooth walls put some water into, heat it till it almost boils, then add a pinch of salt. Pufff! And if you keep heating, adding rice or groats later will produce the same effect again. Just keep some rag ready :wink:

Edit: Jonathan212 beat me about the salt part.
 
What exactly does dissolving mean when we're talking about xylitol? It does not turn into ions does it?
 
No it doesn't. Dissociation is not an obligatory part of the dissolution process.
 
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