Advice for choosing colleges that offer astronomy/astrophysics majors?

  • Context: Schools 
  • Thread starter Thread starter deneb
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around advice for choosing colleges that offer astronomy or astrophysics majors. Participants explore the differences between astronomy and astrophysics, the adequacy of various academic paths for graduate studies, and the reputation of liberal arts colleges in providing relevant education.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the quality of astronomy education at liberal arts colleges and seeks recent rankings for astronomy/astrophysics programs.
  • Another suggests looking at schools with strong graduate programs in astronomy to assess opportunities for undergraduate research with faculty.
  • A participant questions whether a major in astronomy combined with a minor in physics would suffice for pursuing a Ph.D. in astrophysics, indicating a preference for astrophysics over astronomy.
  • One response clarifies that the distinction between astronomers and astrophysicists has diminished, noting that both fields often overlap in modern academia. They assert that a major in astronomy with a minor in physics is generally acceptable for graduate applications, emphasizing the importance of research experience and recommendations.
  • Another participant argues that majoring in physics with a minor or double major in astronomy may be more beneficial, citing the necessity of upper-level physics courses for graduate studies and the perception that physicists are better equipped for astronomy than vice versa. They share their own experience of successfully studying astronomy within a physics Ph.D. program.
  • The same participant mentions that liberal arts colleges can still provide a solid foundation, referencing their own successful admissions to prestigious graduate schools from such an institution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the best academic path for aspiring astrophysicists, with no consensus on whether a major in astronomy or physics is preferable. There is also a lack of agreement on the role of liberal arts colleges in providing adequate preparation for graduate studies in astronomy or astrophysics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of research opportunities and faculty interactions, but there is no consensus on specific programs or rankings. The discussion reflects varying opinions on the relevance of different academic backgrounds for graduate studies.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective college students interested in astronomy or astrophysics, educators advising students on academic paths, and individuals exploring the differences between astronomy and astrophysics as career options.

deneb
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
I'm applying for college and I seriously think I want to major in astronomy or astrophysics

I did some research online and sent emails, but information I gathered about astro-related majors in colleges is still not much. for example, I don't know whether liberal arts colleges provide good astronomy education. I can't find some relatively recent rankings about astronomy/astrophysics major in universities or LACs.

can anybody help me out, please? thx
 
Physics news on Phys.org
One thing you might try is looking for which schools have good graduate astro programs, and then see how hard it is to do undergrad research there with professors.
 
I also have a question regarding this.

Could a Major in Astronomy and a Minor in Physics be good enough for a Astrophysics PH.D?
Honestly I like Astronomy more, but I would rather be a Astrophysicist then a Astronomer.
 
So, one thing to note is that these days, there is no difference between an astrophysicist and an astronomer. 100 years ago, the term "astrophysicist" was used specifically to refer to a scientist who used the new techniques of spectroscopy to study the physics of astronomical objects, while an "astronomer" was someone who calculated orbits, parallaxes, ephemerides, etc.

The two jobs have merged nowadays; I can say that I'm an astronomer or an astrophysicist depending on how I feel that day (hence why many PhD programs are "Astronomy and Astrophysics Departments").

But, to get to your actual question, a major in astronomy and a minor in physics would be completely satisfactory if you wanted to apply to astro grad schools. Generally undergrad astronomy programs have you do a decent amount of physics anyways, and, to be honest, the sort of research experiences and recommendations you have are *much* more important to grad application committees than whether you were a physics or an astronomy major.
 
Frankly, you'd be better off majoring in physics with a double-major or minor in astronomy. Astronomy, astrophysics, and physics graduate schools require a lot of upper-level physics classes, and with only a minor in physics, chances are you won't be prepared for masters-level classes. At my university, we've got a graduate physics department that includes astronomers, so we can get a PhD in physics while studying astronomy or astrophysics at the same time. This will be very useful for getting a job later on, because like it or not, they assume physicists can do astronomy but that astronomers can't do physics. Many of the physics PhD students studying astronomy hadn't taken any astronomy classes as an undergrad; physics taught them most of what they needed to know.

Liberal arts colleges can be fine. I went to one for my double major in physics and astronomy, and students still got into big-name schools from there (Berkeley, Stanford, Cornell).
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
7K
  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
4K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K