Advice on milligram/centigram precision scale

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The discussion revolves around finding a suitable scale that can measure with at least centigram precision, with a focus on affordability and accuracy. Participants explore various options, considerations regarding accuracy, and the pros and cons of buying new versus used equipment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for a scale that measures to centigram precision, noting mixed reviews on precision for milligram scales.
  • Another participant questions the importance of absolute versus relative accuracy, suggesting that the context of measurements matters.
  • A participant expresses a preference for relative accuracy within a few milligrams, indicating that small discrepancies are acceptable as long as they remain consistent.
  • One suggestion is that milligram precision is often the minimum standard for analytical balances, with prices starting around $400, and mentions a specific model, the Mettler AE163, as a good option.
  • A participant shares insights on buying used laboratory equipment, highlighting significant cost savings and the reliability of gently used instruments from reputable sources.
  • Another participant humorously suggests a makeshift paper letter weight scale using simple materials, indicating a more DIY approach.
  • One comment notes that while a certain scale may be overkill for the original request, it could still be a valuable addition to a lab.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the importance of accuracy and the best approach to purchasing scales. There is no consensus on a specific model or method, and multiple perspectives on accuracy and purchasing strategies remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the nuances of accuracy without resolving the definitions of absolute and relative accuracy. The conversation includes considerations of cost, reliability, and the potential risks associated with purchasing used equipment.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals seeking to purchase a precision scale for laboratory or personal use, particularly those interested in the trade-offs between new and used equipment and the importance of accuracy in measurements.

Jenny Physics
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Any suggestion on a good (but as usual not that expensive) scale that can measure at least to centigram precision?

Searching online (e.g. Amazon) I did find some options but the reviews are usually mixed regarding precision (users will say that scales with milligram precision specs are not that precise).

Would like to know your suggestions.
 
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I think you mean "accurate".

Do you need absolute accuracy or relative accuracy? If a scale says 1.092 for one object and 1.082 for another, which is more important? Is it that the two are 0.010 apart or is that a second scale will give the same result?
 
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I think you mean "accurate".

Do you need absolute accuracy or relative accuracy? If a scale says 1.092 for one object and 1.082 for another, which is more important? Is it that the two are 0.010 apart or is that a second scale will give the same result?

I agree that I care mainly about relative accuracy within a few miligrams.

The example you give both 1.092 or 1.082 would be acceptable (although if the two were 0.001 apart it would be better).

But 1.092 and 2.092 would not be ok.
 
Jenny Physics said:
Any suggestion on a good (but as usual not that expensive) scale that can measure at least to centigram precision?

I don't know of any analytical balance that is only accurate to a centigram- milligram precision seems to be the minimum, and the prices start around $400 (US). A few years ago, I found a gently used Mettler AE163, it's fantastic. Look around Biosurplus, LabX, and eBay.
 
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Buying laboratory equipment is like buying home exercise machines. I agree that used equipment is definitely the way to go.

A friend of mine operates a commercial forensic laboratory and they saved 80%-90% over the price of buying instrumentation new by purchasing used equipment (five to ten years old) that was discarded by government labs and labs run by big business high tech companies that feel compelled to pay top dollar in order to always have state of the art instrumentation every time something new or better is developed. My friend's business merely needed instrumentation that was necessary to reach forensic conclusions and not to test the laws of physics to their limits or to send missiles half way around the world with a precision of centimeters. The instruments they bought far exceed their requirements and cost less than buying inferior instruments new. And, scientists in labs that were state of the art as of 5-10 years ago tend to take good care of their prize instruments, so gently used is a good description.

The biggest peril when buying used instruments is damage in shipping, which is unfortunately, all too common and can ruin a precision piece of equipment permanently. Be sure to get insurance on any purchase that you don't deliver yourself.
 
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Perhaps a paper letter weight scale ?
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1 suspension paperclip
2 piece of paper (with scale)
3 thin wire to hang weight from
 
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Likely overkill for your purposes, but very nice having one in the lab.
 
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